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| On Mar 21, 4:31*pm, "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascp...[at]bellsouth.netwrote: - quote - > "ed" <edcos...[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote
P:aul: Since he didn't mention buying, I presumed he didn't cover> > On Mar 21, 2:50 pm, "D.D. Palmer" <ddpal...[at]backnet.net> wrote: > > > Today I unexpectedly received a K-1 form for shares of an ETF (US OIL > > > FUND, symbol "USO") that I sold short in 2007. The form was blank except > > > for my correct name and SS number, and had a printed note to call the > > > issuer's tax office as they did not have my correct info. > > > OK I called and the twinkie on the phone had no clue. > > > As I was SHORT shares I did not receive any royalties, dividends etc, > > > nor were any reported to the IRS. The form, as I stated, was blank > > > except for my name, rank and serial number. > > > I assume there is nothing for me to do with this form? Good assumption?? > > We answered this on Misc taxes, but I'l go again. *Since you didn't > > own the fund there would be nothing to report on the K-1 and I don't > > know why you got a K-1. > He got a K-1 because to fill the short sale, he had to buy. *A short sale > means he sold what he didn't own before he owned it. *There was at least one > second that he was an owner. *K-1's get issued to all owners, regardless of > how long they owned it. > -- > Paul A. Thomas, CPA > Athens, Georgia > -- > << ------------------------------------------------------- > > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, * > > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties *> > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. * * * * * * * * *> > << * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > << * The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts * > > << *to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy *> > << * * * * * * * * *are atwww.asktax.org. * * * * * * * * > > << * * * * Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. * * * * > > << ------------------------------------------------------- > > - Hide quoted text - > - Show quoted text - until the following year--hence no "buy" , and no ownership at all. ed -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 21, 12:50 pm, "D.D. Palmer" <ddpal...[at]backnet.net> wrote: - quote - > Today I unexpectedly received a K-1 form for shares of an ETF (US OIL
So reading the posts here, you can ignore the K-1. But you might have> FUND, symbol "USO") that I sold short in 2007. The form was blank except > for my correct name and SS number, and had a printed note to call the > issuer's tax office as they did not have my correct info. paid interest to hold the position, and this could be deductible as investment interest (with the limitations and carryover as usual). -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In misc.taxes.moderated, Paul Thomas, CPA wrote: - quote - > "ed" <edcosoft[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote
Interesting. I wonder what kind of paperwork and taxes the> > On Mar 21, 2:50 pm, "D.D. Palmer" <ddpal...[at]backnet.net> wrote: > > > Today I unexpectedly received a K-1 form for shares of an ETF (US OIL > > > FUND, symbol "USO") that I sold short in 2007. The form was blank except > > > for my correct name and SS number, and had a printed note to call the > > > issuer's tax office as they did not have my correct info. > > > > > OK I called and the twinkie on the phone had no clue. > > > > > As I was SHORT shares I did not receive any royalties, dividends etc, > > > nor were any reported to the IRS. The form, as I stated, was blank > > > except for my name, rank and serial number. > > > > > I assume there is nothing for me to do with this form? Good assumption?? > > > We answered this on Misc taxes, but I'l go again. Since you didn't > > own the fund there would be nothing to report on the K-1 and I don't > > know why you got a K-1. > He got a K-1 because to fill the short sale, he had to buy. A short sale > means he sold what he didn't own before he owned it. There was at least one > second that he was an owner. K-1's get issued to all owners, regardless of > how long they owned it. shareholder who's shares were borrowed will have to deal with. It kinda makes me want to avoid having PTPs in a margin account from which they could be lent. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "ed" <edcosoft[at]sbcglobal.net> wrote - quote - > On Mar 21, 2:50 pm, "D.D. Palmer" <ddpal...[at]backnet.net> wrote: > > Today I unexpectedly received a K-1 form for shares of an ETF (US OIL > > FUND, symbol "USO") that I sold short in 2007. The form was blank except > > for my correct name and SS number, and had a printed note to call the > > issuer's tax office as they did not have my correct info. > > > OK I called and the twinkie on the phone had no clue. > > > As I was SHORT shares I did not receive any royalties, dividends etc, > > nor were any reported to the IRS. The form, as I stated, was blank > > except for my name, rank and serial number. > > > I assume there is nothing for me to do with this form? Good assumption?? > We answered this on Misc taxes, but I'l go again. Since you didn't > own the fund there would be nothing to report on the K-1 and I don't > know why you got a K-1. He got a K-1 because to fill the short sale, he had to buy. A short sale means he sold what he didn't own before he owned it. There was at least one second that he was an owner. K-1's get issued to all owners, regardless of how long they owned it. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 21, 2:50*pm, "D.D. Palmer" <ddpal...[at]backnet.net> wrote: - quote - > Today I unexpectedly received a K-1 form for shares of an ETF (US OIL > FUND, symbol "USO") that I sold short in 2007. The form was blank except > for my correct name and SS number, and had a printed note to call the > issuer's tax office as they did not have my correct info. > OK I called and the twinkie on the phone had no clue. > As I was SHORT shares I did not receive any royalties, dividends etc, > nor were any reported to the IRS. The form, as I stated, was blank > except for my name, rank and serial number. > * I assume there is nothing for me to do with this form? Good assumption?? > -- > << ------------------------------------------------------- > > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, * > > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties *> > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. * * * * * * * * *> > << * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > << * The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts * > > << *to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy *> > << * * * * * * * * *are atwww.asktax.org. * * * * * * * * > > << * * * * Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. * * * * > > << ------------------------------------------------------- > My post was cut short before I could finish or edit it. It should end with "and type OPEN SHORT in column (f)" . ed -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 21, 2:50*pm, "D.D. Palmer" <ddpal...[at]backnet.net> wrote: - quote - > Today I unexpectedly received a K-1 form for shares of an ETF (US OIL
own the fund there would be nothing to report on the K-1 and I don't> FUND, symbol "USO") that I sold short in 2007. The form was blank except > for my correct name and SS number, and had a printed note to call the > issuer's tax office as they did not have my correct info. > OK I called and the twinkie on the phone had no clue. > As I was SHORT shares I did not receive any royalties, dividends etc, > nor were any reported to the IRS. The form, as I stated, was blank > except for my name, rank and serial number. > * I assume there is nothing for me to do with this form? Good assumption?? > -- > << ------------------------------------------------------- > > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, * > > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties *> > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. * * * * * * * * *> > << * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > << * The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts * > > << *to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy *> > << * * * * * * * * *are atwww.asktax.org. * * * * * * * * > > << * * * * Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. * * * * > > << ------------------------------------------------------- > We answered this on Misc taxes, but I'l go again. Since you didn't know why you got a K-1. YOu should have received a 1099-B from your broker with the sales amount on it. Since you have to match the 1099G totals you shold enter this trade on your Schedule D but leasve columns (b) and (e) blank and type open short . -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Today I unexpectedly received a K-1 form for shares of an ETF (US OIL FUND, symbol "USO") that I sold short in 2007. The form was blank except for my correct name and SS number, and had a printed note to call the issuer's tax office as they did not have my correct info. OK I called and the twinkie on the phone had no clue. As I was SHORT shares I did not receive any royalties, dividends etc, nor were any reported to the IRS. The form, as I stated, was blank except for my name, rank and serial number. I assume there is nothing for me to do with this form? Good assumption?? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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