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| "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote - quote - > "Elle" <honda.lioness[at]spamnocox.net> wrote
I meant it is not clear whether the stocks of which the OP> > Assuming you do need to compute the basis (see other > > posters' comments, e.g. are all stocks in an IRA?), > The IRA issue is MOOT. wrote are in an IRA. If they are in an IRA, then what you and others wrote (on IRAs) is of course correct. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Elle" <honda.lioness[at]spamnocox.net> wrote - quote - > Assuming you do need to compute the basis (see other posters' comments, > e.g. are all stocks in an IRA?), <<<shaking my head> > > The IRA issue is MOOT. It's income when it gets distributed - unless there was some basis (meaning after-tax or non deductible contributions made in prior years) in the IRA. There's no point in even looking at the IRA investments and dreaming that you get to step-up the basis. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "sandy" <fossilnut[at]isp.com> wrote - quote - > I think I've found that the total Joint account's tax
Assuming you do need to compute the basis (see other> basis will be > stepped up to his date of death??? Using "Historical" > stock value web > sites, I've found this information on our holdings but I'm > not sure > which figure I should use.....the closing price, the high > or low, or a > average figure? posters' comments, e.g. are all stocks in an IRA?), then the IRS says to use the "fair market value," where FMV is "the price at which property would change hands between a buyer and a seller, neither having to buy or sell, and both having reasonable knowledge of all necessary facts" (Pub. 551). The average of the high and low prices for the date of death is considered a reasonable estimate of FMV in your situation (and others) and is customary. Note that there is often little difference between using either the high or the low, so often there is nothing to be anxious about; nothing to cause worry were one to be audited. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| sandy wrote: - quote - > I'm trying to understand what my tax basis is now. My husband
valuing your husband's estate, then you get a 100% step up in> recently passed away and we held securities (stocks and mutual funds) > jointly (he also had an IRA which has been moved into my IRA). I live > in Washington state (which I believe is a community property state). > I think I've found that the total Joint account's tax basis will be > stepped up to his date of death??? Using "Historical" stock value web > sites, I've found this information on our holdings but I'm not sure > which figure I should use.....the closing price, the high or low, or a > average figure? > Also.....Does the IRA's basis change also or how do I figure that (or > do I even have to...will the brokerage company do all that for me?) > Thanks! This is all new to me and I hope I asked my questions so you > can understand what I'm asking! > Sandy As long as one-half of the community property is included in value. I have always used the average of the high and low prices on the date of death. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "sandy" <fossilnut[at]isp.com> wrote - quote - > I'm trying to understand what my tax basis is now. My husband > recently passed away and we held securities (stocks and mutual funds) > jointly (he also had an IRA which has been moved into my IRA). I live > in Washington state (which I believe is a community property state). > I think I've found that the total Joint account's tax basis will be > stepped up to his date of death??? Using "Historical" stock value web > sites, I've found this information on our holdings but I'm not sure > which figure I should use.....the closing price, the high or low, or a > average figure? > Also.....Does the IRA's basis change also or how do I figure that (or > do I even have to...will the brokerage company do all that for me?) To continue......the IRA does not receive a "step-up" in basis. Each distribution will be income to you unless there was some after-tax contributions to the IRA. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| sandy <fossilnut[at]isp.com> wrote: - quote - > I'm trying to understand what my tax basis is now. My husband
This will depend on how Washington defines community property.> recently passed away and we held securities (stocks and mutual > funds) jointly (he also had an IRA which has been moved into my > IRA). I live in Washington state (which I believe is a community > property state). Normally community property gets its basis increased to the date of death value when one spouse dies. The issue will be, apparently, whether jointly held property (as opposed to specifically community property) is still considered community. If not, the basis will be stepped up with respect only to half of the value of the property. Stu -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| I'm trying to understand what my tax basis is now. My husband recently passed away and we held securities (stocks and mutual funds) jointly (he also had an IRA which has been moved into my IRA). I live in Washington state (which I believe is a community property state). I think I've found that the total Joint account's tax basis will be stepped up to his date of death??? Using "Historical" stock value web sites, I've found this information on our holdings but I'm not sure which figure I should use.....the closing price, the high or low, or a average figure? Also.....Does the IRA's basis change also or how do I figure that (or do I even have to...will the brokerage company do all that for me?) Thanks! This is all new to me and I hope I asked my questions so you can understand what I'm asking! Sandy -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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