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Old 03-21-2008, 01:04 AM
Phil Marti
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"WD" wrote:

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> The cancellation of debt (1099-c) was in August, the income was in
> Sept-Nov. What I read on the IRS web site was "insolvent" at the
> time of the cancellation of debt.


Then it's not income. All she does is file the necessary form with her
1040.

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Old 03-20-2008, 09:33 PM
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:52:24 EDT, "D. Stussy" <spam[at]bde-arc.ampr.orgwrote:

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> "WD" <wd0809[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:rv85u3pd3br35lr5jhscicu1mo59uc9uhf[at]4ax.com...
> > > I am assuming that the time period for all this will become the deciding factor.


The cancellation of debt (1099-c) was in August, the income was in
Sept-Nov. What I read on the IRS web site was "insolvent" at the
time of the cancellation of debt. Make sense (?) or do I need more
of an education ?

Thanks

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Old 03-20-2008, 09:32 PM
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"WD" <wd0809[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rv85u3pd3br35lr5jhscicu1mo59uc9uhf[at]4ax.com...
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> My girlfriend's w-2 lists 2519.70 in wages. 148.91 in Fed
> tax
> She recieved a 1099-c for debt canceled (automobile loan) of
> 1761.19.
> She has no assets. (bad divorce) I was told she could declare
> insolvency, ( by someone in this group) If she met the no assets
> criteria. I have downloaded and filled out form 982.
> So, is there anything I am missing in this procedure?
> Just attach form 982 along with the 1040 and send in(?) or is there
> more to it? Also I am assuming I do not show the 1761.19 on the 1040
> as it is onform 982.
> BTW I have declared her as a dependent, as she lived with me all year.
> Thanks for any help


Perhaps the debt cancellation is considered gross income and when added to
her wages results in a total greater than 3,400. If that is the case then
you can't claim her as a dependant.





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Old 03-20-2008, 05:52 PM
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"WD" <wd0809[at]yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:rv85u3pd3br35lr5jhscicu1mo59uc9uhf[at]4ax.com...
- quote -

> My girlfriend's w-2 lists 2519.70 in wages. 148.91 in Fed
> tax
> She recieved a 1099-c for debt canceled (automobile loan) of
> 1761.19.
> She has no assets. (bad divorce) I was told she could declare
> insolvency, ( by someone in this group) If she met the no assets
> criteria. I have downloaded and filled out form 982.
> So, is there anything I am missing in this procedure?
> Just attach form 982 along with the 1040 and send in(?) or is there
> more to it? Also I am assuming I do not show the 1761.19 on the 1040
> as it is onform 982.
> BTW I have declared her as a dependent, as she lived with me all year.
> Thanks for any help


She's not insolvent. As her income exceeded the debt, she had sufficient
funds with which to pay it off but chose not to. I am intentionally
disregarding living expenses since her total income wouldn't cover those
anyway (and by you declaring her as your dependent, you're paying for her
living expenses anyway).

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Old 03-20-2008, 05:28 PM
WD
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My girlfriend's w-2 lists 2519.70 in wages. 148.91 in Fed
tax

She recieved a 1099-c for debt canceled (automobile loan) of
1761.19.

She has no assets. (bad divorce) I was told she could declare
insolvency, ( by someone in this group) If she met the no assets
criteria. I have downloaded and filled out form 982.
So, is there anything I am missing in this procedure?
Just attach form 982 along with the 1040 and send in(?) or is there
more to it? Also I am assuming I do not show the 1761.19 on the 1040
as it is onform 982.

BTW I have declared her as a dependent, as she lived with me all year.

Thanks for any help

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