AndyS wrote:
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While I agree that it is a "no-brainer" for many people to download the
estimated tax forms, I don't agree with your conclusion that such should
have been the obvious response to the OP.

He didn't ask, "where can I get the form", he asked "is this a mistake"
after observing that forms were not being delivered this year in the
accustomed time frame.

Even in the previous thread, the question was "Should we be concerned?
[...] Anybody know what the IRS timing on sending them out is?"

What remains unclear is whether it is a mistake, whether we should be
concerned, what the timing is, or is it just a new IRS policy that has
not been communicated very clearly (for example, is e-filing my 1040-ES
"return" the same thing as e-filing my form 1040, as one respondent
stated?). Other than a few "don't worry" replies, the question still
remains unanswered at this point, except for IRS language that many
would interpret to mean this: they ain't mailing out 1040-ES forms and
envelopes to e-filer's any more.

(Just as with e-filing, the total cost doesn't go away, it is just
shifted from one party to another).

Your preferred response to the OP, helpful as it may be, doesn't resolve
this issue or address the question posed by either of the OP's.

-Mark Bole

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Mark Bole wrote:
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Andy writes:

Mark, if you will permit one final observation -----
Any person who posts a question to misc.taxes.moderated will, in my
opinion, have "carefee access to the internet", and therefore would
benefit from the simple answer to "download the form"....

Yet, that was still overlooked by those here who sell tax advice
for
a living.....

In the words of our esteemed president.... " Duhhhhhhh !
" ))))))

Andy in Eureka, Texas



( Eureka --- Birthplace of the one story cathouse...... which
eliminates
most of the f---g overhead " )

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On Mar 14, 8:11*pm, Ron Hardin <rhhar...[at]mindspring.com> wrote:
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IRS will discontinue mailing paper form 1040ES vouchers & envelopes to
clients who file electronically. Estimated filers who file paper
returns will receive one mailing instead of quarterly mailings
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f1040es.pdf

Milt Baker CPA
Michigan

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Please delete all unnecessary material from the prior post when responding.

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Paultry wrote:
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A valid addition to his point is that for many elderly retirees who have
routinely paid estimated taxes for years, carefree access to the
Internet is not yet a reality.

Self-prep software and paid professionals can provide 1040-ES pre-filled
forms, although some charge for it.

Now, if only you could download the pre-addressed envelopes too!

-Mark Bole

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Actually - you ain't gonna get 'em. Per the NATP March 13 newsletter ...

Estimated Tax Payment Vouchers

Here's another opportunity for you to "stay in front of your clients"
throughout the year. The IRS has discontinued mailing paper Form 1040-ES,
Estimated Tax for Individuals, vouchers and envelopes to your 1040-ES
clients who file electronically. 1040-ES filers who file a paper return will
receive only one mailing instead of quarterly mailings. Take the place of
the IRS here and remind your clients to make their payments every quarter.
While you're at it, market yourself and ask if there is anything you can do
for them. More information is in the Form 1040-ES instructions available on
the IRS website.

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Ron Hardin wrote:
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AndyS made a valid point on this subject in a very recent
post - no one stated what we probably considered to be the
obvious. No need to wait for delivery of 1040ES and 1040V.
They can be downloaded here:

http://www.irs.gov/formspubs/lists/0,,id=97817,00.html

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Ron Hardin wrote:
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Yet!

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No mistake, they're just a tad slower this year. After
all, they (IRS) have a lot on their plate this year, what with
getting all those letters out about the upcoming "rebate".

It's not even close to April 15th, so plenty of time in the next
31 days. Don't worry.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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No 1040ES or 1040V delivered this year.

Is this a mistake or is there some new way to
pay online that I'm supposed to know about?
--
rhhardin[at]mindspring.com

On the internet, nobody knows you're a jerk.

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