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| On Mar 13, 8:21 pm, "removeps-gro...[at]yahoo.com" <removeps- gro...[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > Assuming you are not a citizen of the US, the401kis still US source
However, I could be wrong. There are tax treaties between the US and> income, so you would have to file 1040-NR. See: > http://www.irs.gov/publications/p519/ch02.html#d0e2245 many other countries, and many allow pensions earned in one country but received in another to be taxed in the other country only, or only up to 5% in the earning country. Here is the list of treaties: http://www.irs.gov/businesses/intern...=96739,00.html And don't forget the foreign tax credit. Basically on your US return you subtract out the taxes you paid to the foreign government, but only the foreign taxes on the US source income, and the remainder (if any) is what you owe the US. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 13, 7:30*am, "Billy" <billnospamever1234...[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > --Sorry wasn't clear enough, if the previous US citizen is now a citizen
Still not clear. You can be a citizen of the US as well as the other> of another country, what is tax status on 401K distributions? country. Assuming you are not a citizen of the US, the 401k is still US source income, so you would have to file 1040-NR. See: http://www.irs.gov/publications/p519/ch02.html#d0e2245 At one point California would go after 401k distributions of people who put money into their 401k while they were California residents but moved out of state (and were non-residents when receiving their distributions). But the federal government eventually ruled that they cannot do this. So it's ironical that US based 401k's are treated differently. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Billy" <billnospamever1234543[at]aol.com> wrote in message news:47d910ac$0$1093$4c368faf[at]roadrunner.com... - quote - > "Rich Carreiro" <rlc-news[at]rlcarr.com> wrote in message
Becoming a citizen of another country does not terminate your US> news:m3od9jpd87.fsf[at]swing-shift.time-tripper.com... > > "Billy" <billnospamever1234543[at]aol.com> writes: > > > > If a US Citizen emigrates to another country and then redeems his > > > 401K's, > > > does the person have a US Tax liability then? > > > Yes, since an emigre who retains his US citizenship is taxed > > just like a US citizen back at home -- all US citizens are taxed > > on worldwide income regardless of where they reside (though emigres > > do have the foreign earned income exclusion). > > > -- > > Rich Carreiro rlc-news[at]rlcarr.com > > > --Sorry wasn't clear enough, if the previous US citizen is now a citizen > > of another country, what is tax status on 401K distributions? > tks all > bw citizenship. You need to take affirmative actions to relinquish your US citizenship. Until you do so (and perhaps for several years afterwards) you are still subject to all US income tax laws. Ira Smilovitz -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 12, 8:30 pm, Rich Carreiro <rlc-n...[at]rlcarr.com> wrote: - quote - > Yes, since an emigre who retains his US citizenship is taxed > just like a US citizen back at home -- all US citizens are taxed > on worldwide income regardless of where they reside (though emigres > do have the foreign earned income exclusion). Furthermore, in some cases high income ex-pats may be obligated to pay taxes for ten years after leaving the states, whether they consider themselves citizens or not. This closes a tax evasion method some people have used. This is difficult to enforce unless you elave asset in America. http://www.irs.gov/businesses/small/...=97245,00.html -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Rich Carreiro" <rlc-news[at]rlcarr.com> wrote in message news:m3od9jpd87.fsf[at]swing-shift.time-tripper.com... - quote - > "Billy" <billnospamever1234543[at]aol.com> writes:
tks all> > If a US Citizen emigrates to another country and then redeems his 401K's, > > does the person have a US Tax liability then? > Yes, since an emigre who retains his US citizenship is taxed > just like a US citizen back at home -- all US citizens are taxed > on worldwide income regardless of where they reside (though emigres > do have the foreign earned income exclusion). > -- > Rich Carreiro rlc-news[at]rlcarr.com > --Sorry wasn't clear enough, if the previous US citizen is now a citizen > of another country, what is tax status on 401K distributions? bw -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Wed, 12 Mar 2008 22:30:59 EDT, Rich Carreiro <rlc-news[at]rlcarr.comwrote: - quote - > "Billy" <billnospamever1234543[at]aol.com> writes:
would come under the exclusion. As it is not "earned" income,> > If a US Citizen emigrates to another country and then redeems his 401K's, > > does the person have a US Tax liability then? > Yes, since an emigre who retains his US citizenship is taxed > just like a US citizen back at home -- all US citizens are taxed > on worldwide income regardless of where they reside (though emigres > do have the foreign earned income exclusion). > -- > Rich Carreiro rlc-news[at]rlcarr.com I'm not sure if you meant it this way but you imply that the 401(K) however, it is not subject to the exclusion. Earned income means income paid within a year of the year in which it is earned. Retirement plan distributions, including 401(K), apply to all years worked and don't meet this requirement. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Billy" <billnospamever1234543[at]aol.com> writes: - quote - > If a US Citizen emigrates to another country and then redeems his 401K's,
Yes, since an emigre who retains his US citizenship is taxed> does the person have a US Tax liability then? just like a US citizen back at home -- all US citizens are taxed on worldwide income regardless of where they reside (though emigres do have the foreign earned income exclusion). -- Rich Carreiro rlc-news[at]rlcarr.com -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| If a US Citizen emigrates to another country and then redeems his 401K's, does the person have a US Tax liability then? tks all bw -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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