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Old 03-28-2008, 11:11 PM
Phil Marti
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<kupchik[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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> If I report this income on 8919, what code do I select? If I select D
> (I was previously treated as an employee), my computer software
> requires me to also select code G (I filed form SS-8 with the IRS).
> Should I just select D & G and not file the SS-8?


The 8919 instructions tell you to enter reason code D. I find those
instructions ambiguous about whether in your specific situation you should
also enter reason code G, but they definitely say you don't need to complete
an SS-8. So, if Big Daddy Software won't let you finish without checking G,
check it.

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Clarksburg, MD

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Old 03-28-2008, 09:18 PM
kupchik@hotmail.com
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On Mar 24, 3:55*pm, "Phil Marti" <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote:
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> <kupc...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> > I do NOT work for the bankrupt company either as an employee or as an
> > idenpendent contractor anymore. *I have just received a payout of
> > "serverence pay", which was earned from my prior employee work. *This
> > is being reported to me on a 1009-misc (I believe it should have been
> > reported on a W-2).
> > How do I report this, and if on a 8919, do I need to file an SS-8?

> Report it as wages on line 7 and use the 8919 to caluclate and pay the
> employee's share of FICA/Medicare. *The SS-8 is used to get a determination
> of whether there's an employer/employee relationship, but that's already
> established through your W-2 history with the employer. *Thus, there's no
> need for an SS-8.
> --
> Phil Marti
> Clarksburg, MD

Phil,

If I report this income on 8919, what code do I select? If I select D
(I was previously treated as an employee), my computer software
requires me to also select code G (I filed form SS-8 with the IRS).
Should I just select D & G and not file the SS-8?

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Old 03-24-2008, 06:55 PM
Phil Marti
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<kupchik[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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> I do NOT work for the bankrupt company either as an employee or as an
> idenpendent contractor anymore. I have just received a payout of
> "serverence pay", which was earned from my prior employee work. This
> is being reported to me on a 1009-misc (I believe it should have been
> reported on a W-2).
> How do I report this, and if on a 8919, do I need to file an SS-8?


Report it as wages on line 7 and use the 8919 to caluclate and pay the
employee's share of FICA/Medicare. The SS-8 is used to get a determination
of whether there's an employer/employee relationship, but that's already
established through your W-2 history with the employer. Thus, there's no
need for an SS-8.

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Clarksburg, MD

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Old 03-24-2008, 04:25 PM
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On Mar 22, 10:55*am, "Phil Marti" <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote:
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> <kupc...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> > Do I have to file an SS-8 to be classified as an employee?

> You indicated in your OP that you were already classified as an employee
> (getting W-2's). *If your work for this now bankrupt payor was as an
> independent contractor (getting 1099's), you need to report the payment on
> Schedule C and pay full self-employment tax.
> --
> Phil Marti
> Clarksburg, MD


Phil,

Somehow the key point that I was trying to make was deleted by the
moderator from my question.
I do NOT work for the bankrupt company either as an employee or as an
idenpendent contractor anymore. I have just received a payout of
"serverence pay", which was earned from my prior employee work. This
is being reported to me on a 1009-misc (I believe it should have been
reported on a W-2).

How do I report this, and if on a 8919, do I need to file an SS-8?


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Old 03-22-2008, 01:55 PM
Phil Marti
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<kupchik[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Do I have to file an SS-8 to be classified as an employee?

You indicated in your OP that you were already classified as an employee
(getting W-2's). If your work for this now bankrupt payor was as an
independent contractor (getting 1099's), you need to report the payment on
Schedule C and pay full self-employment tax.

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Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 03-22-2008, 01:25 PM
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On Mar 8, 12:28*pm, "Phil Marti" <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote:
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> <kupc...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
> > If I get a 1099-misc from my former employer as a partial payout
> > (banruptcy) for severence pay and nothing was withheld, how does this
> > get reported.

> I'd report it as wages on line 7 of the 1040.
> > Do I have to pay their portion of SS tax?

> No. *Include Form 8919 with your return to compute and pay the employee's
> portion.
> > Is this considered earned
> > income for the purposes of IRA contributions?

> Yes
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> Clarksburg, MD
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Do I have to file an SS-8 to be classified as an employee?

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Old 03-08-2008, 03:28 PM
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<kupchik[at]hotmail.com> wrote:

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> If I get a 1099-misc from my former employer as a partial payout
> (banruptcy) for severence pay and nothing was withheld, how does this
> get reported.


I'd report it as wages on line 7 of the 1040.

- quote -

> Do I have to pay their portion of SS tax?

No. Include Form 8919 with your return to compute and pay the employee's
portion.

- quote -

> Is this considered earned
> income for the purposes of IRA contributions?


Yes

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Clarksburg, MD

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Old 03-08-2008, 02:23 PM
kupchik@hotmail.com
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Default Self Employment Tax

If I get a 1099-misc from my former employer as a partial payout
(banruptcy) for severence pay and nothing was withheld, how does this
get reported.
Do I have to pay their portion of SS tax? Is this considered earned
income for the purposes of IRA contributions?

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