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| "Harlan Lunsford" <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:iaCAj.557$9O.460[at]bignews3.bellsouth.net... - quote - > Arthur Kamlet wrote:
I agree here. No depreciation => no prior method, therefore no change.> > In article <562d9b5c-dd08-447d-9e28-4b4351c56c78[at]s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com> , > > removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com <removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com> wrote: > > > On Mar 8, 7:19 am, an_ordinary_guy_...[at]hotmail.com (Bill) wrote: > > > > saltoftheeart...[at]yahoo.com posted: > > > > > How can I go from not claiming allowable > > > > > depreciation on a rental property to claiming > > > > > allowable depreciation without creating an > > > > > unauthorized change to my accounting > > > > > method. I do not care about the past several > > > > > years lost depreciation and have no desire to > > > > > amend those returns. I would also like to avoid > > > > > having to file a 3115 at this time. Is it > > > > > acceptable to simply start claiming the > > > > > allowable depreciation that I have failed to > > > > > claim the last several years? > > > > How does the accounting method affect the depreciation? > > > One theory, and I do not buy it in this instance, is that once > > you have used a particular accounting method for two tax years > > in a row, you have established your method of accounting. > > > So going from not claiming depreciation two years in row, to > > claiming it, could be taken as a change in method. But since > > the original "method" is not a reasonable one, I would think > > the two years in a row rule would not hold. If you disagree, > > then a 3115 is needed to notify the IRS of a change in method. > I can't quite see that failure to claimed allowable depreciation > in previous years and then resuming it is a change in accounting > method. The "method" was there from the first, although the > error was "forgetting" to claim depreciation officially. > Therefore no form 3115 is called for. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Arthur Kamlet wrote: - quote - > In article <562d9b5c-dd08-447d-9e28-4b4351c56c78[at]s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com> ,
I can't quite see that failure to claimed allowable depreciation> removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com <removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com> wrote: > > On Mar 8, 7:19 am, an_ordinary_guy_...[at]hotmail.com (Bill) wrote: > > > saltoftheeart...[at]yahoo.com posted: > > > > How can I go from not claiming allowable > > > > depreciation on a rental property to claiming > > > > allowable depreciation without creating an > > > > unauthorized change to my accounting > > > > method. I do not care about the past several > > > > years lost depreciation and have no desire to > > > > amend those returns. I would also like to avoid > > > > having to file a 3115 at this time. Is it > > > > acceptable to simply start claiming the > > > > allowable depreciation that I have failed to > > > > claim the last several years? > > How does the accounting method affect the depreciation? > One theory, and I do not buy it in this instance, is that once > you have used a particular accounting method for two tax years > in a row, you have established your method of accounting. > So going from not claiming depreciation two years in row, to > claiming it, could be taken as a change in method. But since > the original "method" is not a reasonable one, I would think > the two years in a row rule would not hold. If you disagree, > then a 3115 is needed to notify the IRS of a change in method. in previous years and then resuming it is a change in accounting method. The "method" was there from the first, although the error was "forgetting" to claim depreciation officially. Therefore no form 3115 is called for. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <562d9b5c-dd08-447d-9e28-4b4351c56c78[at]s8g2000prg.googlegroups.com> , removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com <removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > On Mar 8, 7:19 am, an_ordinary_guy_...[at]hotmail.com (Bill) wrote: > > saltoftheeart...[at]yahoo.com posted: > > > How can I go from not claiming allowable > > > depreciation on a rental property to claiming > > > allowable depreciation without creating an > > > unauthorized change to my accounting > > > method. I do not care about the past several > > > years lost depreciation and have no desire to > > > amend those returns. I would also like to avoid > > > having to file a 3115 at this time. Is it > > > acceptable to simply start claiming the > > > allowable depreciation that I have failed to > > > claim the last several years? - quote - > How does the accounting method affect the depreciation? One theory, and I do not buy it in this instance, is that once you have used a particular accounting method for two tax years in a row, you have established your method of accounting. So going from not claiming depreciation two years in row, to claiming it, could be taken as a change in method. But since the original "method" is not a reasonable one, I would think the two years in a row rule would not hold. If you disagree, then a 3115 is needed to notify the IRS of a change in method. -- ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 8, 7:19 am, an_ordinary_guy_...[at]hotmail.com (Bill) wrote: - quote - > saltoftheeart...[at]yahoo.com posted:
How does the accounting method affect the depreciation?> > How can I go from not claiming allowable > > depreciation on a rental property to claiming > > allowable depreciation without creating an > > unauthorized change to my accounting > > method. I do not care about the past several > > years lost depreciation and have no desire to > > amend those returns. I would also like to avoid > > having to file a 3115 at this time. Is it > > acceptable to simply start claiming the > > allowable depreciation that I have failed to > > claim the last several years? - quote - > You are also allowed to go back and file 1040X returns for the years
But you can go back only 3 years.> when you didn't claim and could have. There is a full explanation in > Pub 527, under "Claiming the Correct Amount of Depreciation." - quote - > If changing your accounting method is involved, while getting the
That document is awfully long.> consent of the IRS is mentioned, in some instances, that consent is > automatic. See chapter 1 of Pub 946. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| saltoftheearth15[at]yahoo.com posted: - quote - > How can I go from not claiming allowable
Though there may be some hoops to jump through, it would seem to be> depreciation on a rental property to claiming > allowable depreciation without creating an > unauthorized change to my accounting > method. I do not care about the past several > years lost depreciation and have no desire to > amend those returns. I would also like to avoid > having to file a 3115 at this time. Is it > acceptable to simply start claiming the > allowable depreciation that I have failed to > claim the last several years? worth doing so, since you're goind to be _charged_ for the "imputed" depreciation when you sell the property, whether you took it or not. You are also allowed to go back and file 1040X returns for the years when you didn't claim and could have. There is a full explanation in Pub 527, under "Claiming the Correct Amount of Depreciation." If changing your accounting method is involved, while getting the consent of the IRS is mentioned, in some instances, that consent is automatic. See chapter 1 of Pub 946. Bill -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| How can I go from not claiming allowable depreciation on a rental property to claiming allowable depreciation without creating an unauthorized change to my accounting method. I do not care about the past several years lost depreciation and have no desire to amend those returns. I would also like to avoid having to file a 3115 at this time. Is it acceptable to simply start claiming the allowable depreciation that I have failed to claim the last several years? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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