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| "PeterL" <po.ning[at]gmail.com> wrote - quote - > I didn't read it that way. OP said roll a 401K from > an American company into that company's (i.e. that > American company) pension plan. The question is > whether one can roll a 401K into a pension plan. The only real issue is if the existing employer plan allows or accepts transfers/rollovers. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Paul Thomas, CPA wrote: - quote - > "njoracle" <njoracle[at]att.net> wrote
I guess I didn't make myself clear. It is not a foreign plan. The 401K> > I read the other thread on "401k rollover" and how to handle that on line > > 16 of the 1040. However, what if the rollover is for a person residing in a > > foreign country and a 401K from an American company which was rolled over > > into that company's pension plan? > There's no such animal where you can roll a US pension/IRA/etc into a > foreign plan, etc. is from an American company. The pension plan is from that same American company. The American 401K was rolled over into the American pension plan. There is nothing foreign about that. The only thing foreign about this is the beneficiary who is a citizen of and living in foreign country and not a resident alien in the USA. - quote - > It's going to be a taxable distribution, and taxes ~~will~~ be withheld if
It is not a taxable distribution and no taxes were withheld:> the fund managers know what they are dealing with. Line 1 shows the Gross distribution with an amount of $______ line 2a shows the Taxable amount of $0.00 Line 4 federal Income Tax withheld of $0.00 - quote - > > Is it necessary for this person to file an income tax with the IRS since > > he is not living in the US and has not lived (or visited) here for over 20 > > years? Of course, because of the rollover, there is no tax due and none > > was withheld. > Yes, a tax return will be due, mainly because it's highly likely that the > withholdings are greater than the tax that may be due. Since there were no withholdings would you agree that it is not necessary to file a tax return? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Mar 3, 2:22*pm, "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascp...[at]bellsouth.netwrote: - quote - > "njoracle" <njora...[at]att.net> wrote
I didn't read it that way. OP said roll a 401K from an American> > I read the other thread on "401k rollover" and how to handle that on line > > 16 of the 1040. However, what if the rollover is for a person residing in a > > foreign country and a 401K from an American company which was rolled over > > into that company's pension plan? > There's no such animal where you can roll a US pension/IRA/etc into a > foreign plan, etc. company into that company's (i.e. that American company) pension plan. The question is whether one can roll a 401K into a pension plan. - quote - > It's going to be a taxable distribution, and taxes ~~will~~ be withheld if
<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
> the fund managers know what they are dealing with. > > Is it necessary for this person to file an income tax with the IRS since > > he is not living in the US and has not lived (or visited) here for over 20 > > years? Of course, because of the rollover, there is no tax due and none > > was withheld. > Yes, a tax return will be due, mainly because it's highly likely that the > withholdings are greater than the tax that may be due. > -- > Paul A. Thomas, CPA > Athens, Georgia > -- > << ------------------------------------------------------- > > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, * > > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties *> > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. * * * * * * * * *> > << * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > > << * The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts * > > << *to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy *> > << * * * * * * * * *are atwww.asktax.org. * * * * * * * * > > << * * * * Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. * * * * > > << ------------------------------------------------------- > -- |
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| "njoracle" <njoracle[at]att.net> wrote - quote - > I read the other thread on "401k rollover" and how to handle that on line > 16 of the 1040. However, what if the rollover is for a person residing in a > foreign country and a 401K from an American company which was rolled over > into that company's pension plan? There's no such animal where you can roll a US pension/IRA/etc into a foreign plan, etc. It's going to be a taxable distribution, and taxes ~~will~~ be withheld if the fund managers know what they are dealing with. - quote - > Is it necessary for this person to file an income tax with the IRS since > he is not living in the US and has not lived (or visited) here for over 20 > years? Of course, because of the rollover, there is no tax due and none > was withheld. Yes, a tax return will be due, mainly because it's highly likely that the withholdings are greater than the tax that may be due. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <nQXyj.276466$MJ6.45544[at]bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> , njoracle <njoracle[at]att.net> wrote: - quote - > I read the other thread on "401k rollover" and how to handle that on
I don't think you can roll from a 401K to a foreign company's pension> line 16 of the 1040. However, what if the rollover is for a person > residing in a foreign country and a 401K from an American company which > was rolled over into that company's pension plan? > Is it necessary for this person to file an income tax with the IRS since > he is not living in the US and has not lived (or visited) here for over > 20 years? Of course, because of the rollover, there is no tax due and > none was withheld. plan. Seth -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| I read the other thread on "401k rollover" and how to handle that on line 16 of the 1040. However, what if the rollover is for a person residing in a foreign country and a 401K from an American company which was rolled over into that company's pension plan? Is it necessary for this person to file an income tax with the IRS since he is not living in the US and has not lived (or visited) here for over 20 years? Of course, because of the rollover, there is no tax due and none was withheld. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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