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I had definite opinions on who should or not teach), I COULD add to this> > I support vouchers for inner-city children who are unable to read at > > the grade level below to > > the grad level to which they have been promoted. > Since you want to stray from taxes... > This is an extremely naive view of inner city schools, and the many > dedicated teachers there who try to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear > - and occasionally succeed. A kindergarten teacher I once knew and > respected greatly told me she was almost certain she could predict which > students would not graduate from high school within one week of the > beginning of kindergarten. Education is NOT simply the product of which > teachers a student is assigned to and which schools a student attends. > It is a complex mix of factors, the most important of which is what the > child has been and will be exposed to at home, both positively and > negatively. Since I'm a former teacher (one year high school way back when, and when obviously off topic and NON TAX related issue...... but I won't. But more to the topic, 20 years ago, well, even 10 maybe?, when a client would ask if college tuition is deductible, I would say: "Not just NO, but hell no. It'll never happen." But then HOPE springs eternal, and now we have the HOPE credit; and 20% LEC, and then their's tuition deduction for first 4000$. oh, yes, and deduction for student loan interest. What's next, a deduction for private school tuition? (shudder) ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <47c5a40a$0$17355$4c368faf[at]roadrunner.com> , tobe <ybotkaSPM[at]cinci.rr.com> wrote: - quote - > It is a complex mix of factors, the most important of which is what the
Although there are some early suggestions that that may not be really> child has been and will be exposed to at home, both positively and > negatively. true. There are a couple of charter schools in Indy, for instance, who specialize in "problem children" taking those who have been tossed out of the Public Schools. They have shown interesting increases in testing scores in both the state tests and others such as reading levels. Neither have really been around long enough to be anything more than interesting, but that was more than was expected when they started. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Dick Adams wrote: - quote - > I support vouchers for inner-city children who
Since you want to stray from taxes...> are unable to read at the grade level below to > the grad level to which they have been promoted. This is an extremely naive view of inner city schools, and the many dedicated teachers there who try to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear - and occasionally succeed. A kindergarten teacher I once knew and respected greatly told me she was almost certain she could predict which students would not graduate from high school within one week of the beginning of kindergarten. Education is NOT simply the product of which teachers a student is assigned to and which schools a student attends. It is a complex mix of factors, the most important of which is what the child has been and will be exposed to at home, both positively and negatively. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Private school K-12 is no deductible <periodI would like for it to be deductible because that would mean more tax revenue per student in public education. Quality of education is not a function of tax revenue per student. But excess tax revenue per student can purchase quality administrative leadership in public education unless the nitwit school boards hire other nitwits with ED degrees or Ph.D. Liberal Arts degrees (AKA retail sales degrees). INrarelyHO, the problem in the American Education system is the lack of reproductive organs in the administration. I support vouchers for inner-city children who are unable to read at the grade level below to the grad level to which they have been promoted. If you are teacher and you choose not to fail a student, you ain't nothin more than a bag man stealin from yer employer. Dick -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com" <removeps-groups[at]yahoo.com> writes: - quote - > Most of us will be getting a stimulus check soon. You can use that
That would be nice, but I will instead be using that to pay> for education expenses. off part of the home equity line balance I am already carrying. (This has stopped being about taxes and started being about the challenge of putting five children through private school, and hence this particular sub-thread should probably end here.) -- Help stop the genocide in Darfur! http://www.genocideintervention.net/ -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Feb 26, 12:27*pm, j...[at]kamens.brookline.ma.us (Jonathan Kamens) wrote: - quote - > I don't exactly have any extra cash lying around
Most of us will be getting a stimulus check soon. You can use thatfor education expenses. FYI, the link to the publication is http://www.irs.gov/publications/p970/ -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Jonathan Kamens" <jik[at]kamens.brookline.ma.us> wrote - quote - > My mother-in-law, who works as a financial aid counselor for a > non-profit, claims that private elementary school tuition is eligible > for the Hope credit. Ummmm......no. See below....... - quote - > My reading of Publication 970 would seem to suggest to me that this is > not the case, i.e., that the Hope and Lifetime Learning credits are > available only for post-secondary education. > Who's right? Pub 970 of course. - quote - > On the other hand, it appears that I could open a Coverdell ESA and use > the funds from it to pay for elementary school tuition, People often get confused about lots of things. Maybe this is one case where she mis-remembered something. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Jonathan Kamens" wrote: - quote - > My mother-in-law, who works as a financial aid counselor for a
You are, but you may not want to share that information with your MIL.> non-profit, claims that private elementary school tuition is eligible > for the Hope credit. > My reading of Publication 970 would seem to suggest to me that this is > not the case, i.e., that the Hope and Lifetime Learning credits are > available only for post-secondary education. > Who's right? -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| My mother-in-law, who works as a financial aid counselor for a non-profit, claims that private elementary school tuition is eligible for the Hope credit. My reading of Publication 970 would seem to suggest to me that this is not the case, i.e., that the Hope and Lifetime Learning credits are available only for post-secondary education. Who's right? On the other hand, it appears that I could open a Coverdell ESA and use the funds from it to pay for elementary school tuition, but seeing as how I don't exactly have any extra cash lying around and would thus have to borrow the money and pay interest on it, that would seem to defeat the purpose and probably not be worth the effort. With suitably creative investment strategies, I imagine that I could make a higher rate of return in the ESA than I'd be paying in loan interest, but it'd be a lot of work and a lot of risk. Thanks. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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