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| In article <7oMvj.80712$Mu4.38522[at]bignews7.bellsouth.net> , Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > In this case he will then respond with explanation.
Thanks Harlan, I will let it go for now and deal with it if and whenit's questioned -- if ever. -- -Ernie- -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Ernie Klein wrote: - quote - > In article <fpnec7$qgl$1[at]snarked.org> ,
letter calling his attention to the fact that no return filed, and ..> "D. Stussy" <spam[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: > > Having worked non-filer cases in my IRS days, one of the things that the IRS > > does look at is the filing threshold. Generally, cases were assigned when > > the threshold was exceeded and a return presumed to be due. However, I do > > remember being assigned to a couple of cases where the threshold wasn't met. > > Usually, these were older people on social security living in high-cost > > areas where the SS payments didn't cover basic needs. > > > Therefore, it can happen but is unlikely. However, with all the people > > living beyond their means (cf. mortgage foreclosures, etc.), I would not be > > surprised if there were more "economic reality" audits coming down the > > chain.... > How about an actual case that I know of that is happening right now. > Last several years earned 75-95K and filed. 2007 not required to file. > 2008 will again earn 80+K and file. Reason: multiple surgeries and > unable to work at all in 2007 resulting in zero (taxable) income. > Would this raise a flag if a 0 income return for 2007 is not filed? Not a red flag per se, however maybe a year down the road he may get a something like,,, 'hey, did you forget?" In this case he will then respond with explanation. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <fpnec7$qgl$1[at]snarked.org> , "D. Stussy" <spam[at]bde-arc.ampr.org> wrote: - quote - > Having worked non-filer cases in my IRS days, one of the things that the IRS
How about an actual case that I know of that is happening right now.> does look at is the filing threshold. Generally, cases were assigned when > the threshold was exceeded and a return presumed to be due. However, I do > remember being assigned to a couple of cases where the threshold wasn't met. > Usually, these were older people on social security living in high-cost > areas where the SS payments didn't cover basic needs. > Therefore, it can happen but is unlikely. However, with all the people > living beyond their means (cf. mortgage foreclosures, etc.), I would not be > surprised if there were more "economic reality" audits coming down the > chain.... Last several years earned 75-95K and filed. 2007 not required to file. 2008 will again earn 80+K and file. Reason: multiple surgeries and unable to work at all in 2007 resulting in zero (taxable) income. Would this raise a flag if a 0 income return for 2007 is not filed? -- -Ernie- -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Tony Cox" wrote: - quote - > I don't think anyone has yet addressed "Spirit"'s question. He's
No> asking > if the IRS come knocking if you don't file. Interesting question. > Suppose you are normally a filer, but have a year when you're not > obliged to file because you're below the threshold requiring a return. > If you expect to file in subsequent years, is it best to file at least > something, even if you're not obliged to, to avoid the "evil eye" ?? -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Tony Cox" <tc[at]coxrt.com> wrote in message news:bf77f509-74b3-4579-9663-3fbe10e94c4a[at]60g2000hsy.googlegroups.com... - quote - > I don't think anyone has yet addressed "Spirit"'s question. He's asking
Having worked non-filer cases in my IRS days, one of the things that the IRS> if the IRS come knocking if you don't file. Interesting question. > Suppose you are normally a filer, but have a year when you're not > obliged to file because you're below the threshold requiring a return. > If you expect to file in subsequent years, is it best to file at least > something, even if you're not obliged to, to avoid the "evil eye" ?? does look at is the filing threshold. Generally, cases were assigned when the threshold was exceeded and a return presumed to be due. However, I do remember being assigned to a couple of cases where the threshold wasn't met. Usually, these were older people on social security living in high-cost areas where the SS payments didn't cover basic needs. Therefore, it can happen but is unlikely. However, with all the people living beyond their means (cf. mortgage foreclosures, etc.), I would not be surprised if there were more "economic reality" audits coming down the chain.... -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Feb 21, 2:23 pm, Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Spirit wrote:
I don't think anyone has yet addressed "Spirit"'s question. He's> > I was unemployed in 2007 but do have interest and dividend income. > > Should I send in a tax form with that info even though it is so low I > > would not owe taxes. I thought this might be best in case they wondered > > why I didn't file anything. Thanks > You're probably asking the question re the stimulus bill recently passed > that provides for "rebates" for even those not required to file. asking if the IRS come knocking if you don't file. Interesting question. Suppose you are normally a filer, but have a year when you're not obliged to file because you're below the threshold requiring a return. If you expect to file in subsequent years, is it best to file at least something, even if you're not obliged to, to avoid the "evil eye" ?? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Re: no income Group: misc.taxes.moderated Date: Thu, Feb 21, 2008, 9:02am From: byaz55[at]lycos.com (Benjamin*Yazersky*CPA) On Feb 20, 11:20 pm, decreat...[at]webtv.net (Spirit) wrote: I was unemployed in 2007 but do have interest and dividend income. Should I send in a tax form with that info even though it is so low I would not owe taxes. I thought this might be best in case they wondered why I didn't file anything. Thanks -- Check the 1040 intructions for the requirement to file. If your income is below the level required to file, then you don't need to. Sometimes, tax returns are filed, even if not required, as there are third party reporting items such as 1099's for INT, DIV, or like in your case unemployment. This could help to avoid correspondence down the road. It also starts the statute of limitations to run. ___________________________________ <<< Benjamin Yazersky, CPA [NJ & NY] > > **************-----> real address on hobokeni or hobokenx <----- "This written advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used by any taxpayer, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer." (The foregoing legend has been affixed pursuant to U.S. Treasury Regulations governing tax practice.) The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- <<*----------- << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, * > > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. * * * * * * * * > <<************************************************ ********* << * The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts * > > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > > << * * * * * * * * are at www.asktax.org. * * * * * * * * - quote - > > << * * * * Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. * *
last year,(at my expense) and looked for work, I didn't draw* * > <<*------------------------------------------- I went to school unemployment. My interest and divdend income is under $2000. I know there is no refund or rebate for me but should I file since I have received reportable income? Thanks for your response. ========================================= MODERATOR'S COMMENT: When responding to a post, only include in your response those portions of the prior post that are necessary to context, or to which you specifically reply, and delete the rest. Thank you for your assistance. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Spirit wrote: - quote - > I was unemployed in 2007 but do have interest and dividend income.
that provides for "rebates" for even those not required to file. An> Should I send in a tax form with that info even though it is so low I > would not owe taxes. I thought this might be best in case they wondered > why I didn't file anything. Thanks You're probably asking the question re the stimulus bill recently passed easy $300, right? Well, I'm sorry to say that this kind of income is not "qualified income" and therefore won't do a thing to help you get the free money. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Feb 20, 11:20 pm, decreat...[at]webtv.net (Spirit) wrote: - quote - > I was unemployed in 2007 but do have interest and dividend income. > Should I send in a tax form with that info even though it is so low I > would not owe taxes. I thought this might be best in case they wondered > why I didn't file anything. Thanks > -- Check the 1040 intructions for the requirement to file. If your income is below the level required to file, then you don't need to. Sometimes, tax returns are filed, even if not required, as there are third party reporting items such as 1099's for INT, DIV, or like in your case unemployment. This could help to avoid correspondence down the road. It also starts the statute of limitations to run. ___________________________________ <<< Benjamin Yazersky, CPA [NJ & NY] > > -----> real address on hobokeni or hobokenx <----- "This written advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used by any taxpayer, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer." (The foregoing legend has been affixed pursuant to U.S. Treasury Regulations governing tax practice.) The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Spirit" wrote: - quote - > I was unemployed in 2007 but do have interest and dividend income.
If you meet the filing requirement in the 1040 instructions file. If not,> Should I send in a tax form with that info even though it is so low I > would not owe taxes. I thought this might be best in case they wondered > why I didn't file anything. they won't be curious. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Feb 20, 8:20*pm, decreat...[at]webtv.net (Spirit) wrote: - quote - > I was unemployed in 2007 but do have interest and dividend income.
Is your income less than your exemption + standard deduction? If yes,> Should I send in a tax form with that info even though it is so low I > would not owe taxes. I thought this might be best in case they wondered > why I didn't file anything. Thanks then you don't have to file. Did you get unemployment compensation? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| I was unemployed in 2007 but do have interest and dividend income. Should I send in a tax form with that info even though it is so low I would not owe taxes. I thought this might be best in case they wondered why I didn't file anything. Thanks -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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