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| "Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote in message news:c59vj.8429$_T3.8375[at]trnddc07... - quote - > "D. Stussy" wrote:
Perhaps so, but the form doesn't make that distinction. All is says is> > If this year's from 2106 (Line 7 - I haven't done one of those in a while) > > has a line for employer reimbursement, that's really where it should go. > > Form 8919 would be applicable to the extent there was EXCESS > > reimbursement. > > That does produce a different (lower) answer of tax due. > I disagree. What you are talking about would be the treatment of excess > payments under an accountable plan. include the amount NOT reported on box 1 of form W-2. Reimbursement on a 1099 is NOT on the form W-2. Maybe that's not supposed to happen, but following the instructions still puts it on the 2106. - quote - > > From facts in the OP we are apparently talking about a nonaccountable
Which would work if it were reported via a W-2. It wasn't. The employer,> reimbursement plan. All payments to the employee are fully taxable as wages > and reported on the W-2 ( Pub 15). The employee is stuck will the Schedule > A employee business expense deduction. by omittng it from box 1 of the W-2, isn't saying that it's a non-accountable plan. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Feb 20, 5:48 pm, SMF <smf...[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > We got a 1099-Misc with $5000 in Box 3 Other Income. This was a > reimbursement for auto expenses of an employee. I understand how to > deduct the employee expenses on Sch A but not sure if the $5000 goes > on Other Income Line 21 on the front of my 1040. Someone said it had > to go on Sch C. Advice? They reimburse at the fed 48.5 We loose out > with the limitation on Sch A where it goes. IF it somehow went on Sch > C it would be a wash. > -- If you are an employee, then you should not be getting a 1099 from your employer. All income belongs on the W2. It belongs in the box labeled wages & other income. The tax treatment of the reimbursement can vary depending on whether it qualifies as an accountable plan or not. ___________________________________ <<< Benjamin Yazersky, CPA [NJ & NY] > > -----> real address on hobokeni or hobokenx <----- "This written advice was not intended or written to be used, and it cannot be used by any taxpayer, for the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed on the taxpayer." (The foregoing legend has been affixed pursuant to U.S. Treasury Regulations governing tax practice.) The information transmitted is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this in error, please contact the sender and delete the material from any computer. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "D. Stussy" wrote: - quote - > If this year's from 2106 (Line 7 - I haven't done one of those in a while)
I disagree. What you are talking about would be the treatment of excess> has a line for employer reimbursement, that's really where it should go. > Form 8919 would be applicable to the extent there was EXCESS > reimbursement. > That does produce a different (lower) answer of tax due. payments under an accountable plan. - quote - > From facts in the OP we are apparently talking about a nonaccountable
and reported on the W-2 ( Pub 15). The employee is stuck will the Schedulereimbursement plan. All payments to the employee are fully taxable as wages A employee business expense deduction. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote in message news:MH2vj.9147$kI4.3936[at]trnddc05... "SMF" wrote: - quote - > > We got a 1099-Misc with $5000 in Box 3 Other Income. This was a
If this year's from 2106 (Line 7 - I haven't done one of those in a while)> > reimbursement for auto expenses of an employee. > It was incorrect. The $5,000 should have been included in Box 1 wages of > the W-2. I'll be charitable and say that the employer is confused, but > there's also the chance that the employer is trying to avoid the employer's > share of FICA and Medicare (and perhaps FUTA). > If the employer won't correct the W-2, do the following: > 1. Include the $5,000 with wages on line 7 of the 1040. > 2. File Form 8919 with your 1040 to calculate and pay the employee's share > of FICA/Medicare. has a line for employer reimbursement, that's really where it should go. Form 8919 would be applicable to the extent there was EXCESS reimbursement. That does produce a different (lower) answer of tax due. You should file the form 2106 even if you DON'T have a Schedule A - because it has to show the reimbursement. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "SMF" <smfwdf[at]comcast.net> wrote - quote - > We got a 1099-Misc with $5000 in Box 3 Other Income. This was a > reimbursement for auto expenses of an employee. I understand how to > deduct the employee expenses on Sch A but not sure if the $5000 goes > on Other Income Line 21 on the front of my 1040. Someone said it had > to go on Sch C. Advice? They reimburse at the fed 48.5 We loose out > with the limitation on Sch A where it goes. IF it somehow went on Sch > C it would be a wash. If you "account" to your employer, meaning you turn in mileage records, etc, then they are doing it wrong. It's not income to you at all. If they just give you $100 a week (and you're on vacation for two weeks, that comes to $5,000 even) then it's a non-accountable plan and it is income to you. It shouldn't be reported on the 1099 though, as it should be reported as additional wages and reported through your W-2. In a non-accountable plan you would then deduct your actual expenses on Schedule A. Get your employer to correct this if it's wrong, and may see if they'll change plans to an accountable plan (if you don't have one now) which benefits you with no real downside to him. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "SMF" wrote: - quote - > We got a 1099-Misc with $5000 in Box 3 Other Income. This was a
It was incorrect. The $5,000 should have been included in Box 1 wages of> reimbursement for auto expenses of an employee. the W-2. I'll be charitable and say that the employer is confused, but there's also the chance that the employer is trying to avoid the employer's share of FICA and Medicare (and perhaps FUTA). If the employer won't correct the W-2, do the following: 1. Include the $5,000 with wages on line 7 of the 1040. 2. File Form 8919 with your 1040 to calculate and pay the employee's share of FICA/Medicare. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| We got a 1099-Misc with $5000 in Box 3 Other Income. This was a reimbursement for auto expenses of an employee. I understand how to deduct the employee expenses on Sch A but not sure if the $5000 goes on Other Income Line 21 on the front of my 1040. Someone said it had to go on Sch C. Advice? They reimburse at the fed 48.5 We loose out with the limitation on Sch A where it goes. IF it somehow went on Sch C it would be a wash. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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