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| <DaveMschr[at]aol.com> wrote in message news:15932eea-bf59-4fdf-8648-32ec7011dae2[at]s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com... - quote - > On Feb 13, 5:22 pm, "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascp...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
They do. "Production of income" does not mean "production of deductions."> > <DaveMs...[at]aol.com> wrote > > > <<<Snip what's mostly not important> > > > > > Are monies spent towards legal fees in defending/quashing > > > the void orders deductible, as miscellaneous deductions for > > > protection/collection of income, since quashing the orders > > > was necessary to ensure that I was able to collect all taxable > > > income that was due me from my employer? > > > As much as you may think otherwise, this is not for the > > "protection/collection of income". Your gross wages would remain the same. > > Your net would be less due to the wage garnishment for alimony. > > > No deduction. > Damn. Figured I'd ask, since there was a void order in there, which > usually isn't the > case. > I'm guessing the rule is, if it increases gross income (rather than > minimizing > adjustments), it's more likely to be deductible; if it's simply > minimizing adjustments to > gross income, it isn't deductible? > Why don't they say that? :-b -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Feb 13, 5:22 pm, "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascp...[at]bellsouth.netwrote: - quote - > <DaveMs...[at]aol.com> wrote
Damn. Figured I'd ask, since there was a void order in there, which> <<<Snip what's mostly not important> > > > Are monies spent towards legal fees in defending/quashing > > the void orders deductible, as miscellaneous deductions for > > protection/collection of income, since quashing the orders > > was necessary to ensure that I was able to collect all taxable > > income that was due me from my employer? > As much as you may think otherwise, this is not for the > "protection/collection of income". Your gross wages would remain the same. > Your net would be less due to the wage garnishment for alimony. > No deduction. usually isn't the case. I'm guessing the rule is, if it increases gross income (rather than minimizing adjustments), it's more likely to be deductible; if it's simply minimizing adjustments to gross income, it isn't deductible? Why don't they say that? :-b -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| <DaveMschr[at]aol.com> wrote <<<Snip what's mostly not important> > - quote - > Are monies spent towards legal fees in defending/quashing > the void orders deductible, as miscellaneous deductions for > protection/collection of income, since quashing the orders > was necessary to ensure that I was able to collect all taxable > income that was due me from my employer? As much as you may think otherwise, this is not for the "protection/collection of income". Your gross wages would remain the same. Your net would be less due to the wage garnishment for alimony. No deduction. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Question regarding legal fees / protection of income / alimony proceedings. My ex-spouse sued me for divorce in Kansas in March 2007. Part of the proceedings involved an ex parte order for spousal support, and when I refused to pay, an income withholding order. In July 2007, I was successful in getting the spousal support order (and subsequent income withholding order) dismissed on the grounds that the state of Kansas lacked personal jurisdiction over me. (I did not meet the minimum contacts test for assertion of personal jurisdiction. As such, the orders were void on its face, but proceedings were necessary to make this determination.) Due to the timing of the income withholding order and the dismissal of same, no income was actually withheld. After dismissing the void orders, the Kansas courts had no further effect on divorce proceedings. The courts in my home state (North Carolina) were the ones that eventually issued the divorce decree and governed all aspects of same, including the property settlement and my ex-spouse's waiver of alimony claims. Are monies spent towards legal fees in defending/quashing the void orders deductible, as miscellaneous deductions for protection/collection of income, since quashing the orders was necessary to ensure that I was able to collect all taxable income that was due me from my employer? The IRS publications (specifically Pub. 529) is not fully clear on the subject. I realize that if the spousal support proceedings in Kansas had been found valid, it would not be deductible, since the claim would be arising from a personal relationship. Likewise, the vast majority of my legal expenses in North Carolina would not be deductible. But since the claim in Kansas was never legitimate at all (and ultimately had no legal effect), does it matter how the claim arose? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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