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| D. Stussy wrote: - quote - > "Mark Bole" <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote in message
Legislatures says:> news Capj.6761$nK5.1006[at]nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...> > D. Stussy wrote: > > [...] > > > If you live in a "community property state" (there are 15 of them), then > > > your split is pretty much mandated at 50% each for every item mentioned > per > > > state law. > > Wrong, there are nine. See Pub 555. > Brain freeze here. You're right. I was thinking of "common law" states - > of which there are 15. If we want to get technical... the National Conference of State "Currently, only 10 states (Alabama, Colorado, Kansas, Rhode Island, South Carolina, Iowa, Montana, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania and Texas) and the District of Columbia recognize common-law marriages contracted within their borders. In addition, five states have "grandfathered" common law marriage, allowing those established before a certain date to be recognized. New Hampshire recognizes common law marriage only for purposes of probate, and Utah recognizes common law marriages only if they have been validated by a court or administrative order." -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Frank S. Duke, Jr. wrote: - quote - > CallMeZoot at CallMeZoot[at]gmail.com wrote on 2/2/08 4:00 PM:
The first problem with this is, since information on MFS returns is not> > We have a few shared items in both of our names, including: [...] > > -Can we put them on whichever return we prefer (depending on what > > works out to the least tax liabliity)? > yes > > -Can we "split them up" -- e.g. put half of the mortgage interest on > > mine, half on hers? or in a 60/40, etc. split? > yes > > -Are there any regulations for how to divide them (e.g. do property > > taxes and mortgage interest have to be on the same return?) > no necessarily available to the other spouse, how could one arbitrarily split up income and deductions and ensure they are not double-reported? See Table 1 in Pub 504 (page 5, for 2007 tax year). There are indeed rules for dividing Schedule A deductions on MFS returns. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Mark Bole" <makbo[at]pacbell.net> wrote in message news Capj.6761$nK5.1006[at]nlpi069.nbdc.sbc.com...- quote - > D. Stussy wrote:
Brain freeze here. You're right. I was thinking of "common law" states -> [...] > > > If you live in a "community property state" (there are 15 of them), then > > your split is pretty much mandated at 50% each for every item mentioned per > > state law. > Wrong, there are nine. See Pub 555. of which there are 15. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > If you live in a "community property state" (there are 15 of them)
1. Arizona2. California 3. Idaho 4. Louisiana 5. Nevada 6. New Mexico 7. Texas 8. Washington 9. Wisconsin What are the other 6? Bob Sandler -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| D. Stussy wrote: [...] - quote - > If you live in a "community property state" (there are 15 of them), then
Wrong, there are nine. See Pub 555.> your split is pretty much mandated at 50% each for every item mentioned per > state law. -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| CallMeZoot at CallMeZoot[at]gmail.com wrote on 2/2/08 4:00 PM: - quote - > We have a few shared items in both of our names, including:
winnings, it should go with the gambler.> -Mortgage Interest If you are both on the loan, allocate it any way you wish. > -Property Taxes If you jointly hold title to the property, anyway you wish. > -A small amount of 1099-misc income If self employment it should be whoever owns the business. If gambling - quote - > -A small amount of savings interest
that reported it to the IRS and then subtract it out with a commentIf joint account it can go either way but you should report it under the SSN transferring it to the other SSN. Then report it on the other person's return. - quote - > What are our options for these items when filing separately?
look for them where reported.> Specifically... > -Can we put them on whichever return we prefer (depending on what > works out to the least tax liabliity)? yes > -Can we "split them up" -- e.g. put half of the mortgage interest on > mine, half on hers? or in a 60/40, etc. split? yes > -Are there any regulations for how to divide them (e.g. do property > taxes and mortgage interest have to be on the same return?) no > -Do we have to somehow document on one return that the "missing items" > are on the spouse's return? Yes, if they were reported to the IRS on a 1099 type form. The IRS will All freely provided advice guarantee correct or double your money back Frank S. Duke, Jr. CPA Cincinnati, OH USA -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "CallMeZoot" <CallMeZoot[at]gmail.com> wrote in message news:eca24b6f-b181-4ce8-9222-7f576d000895[at]i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com... - quote - > After crunching some numbers I have figured out that it MIGHT work out
If you live in a "community property state" (there are 15 of them), then> better if my wife and I file as "Married Filing Separately" (she has > several part time jobs which significantly under-withheld based on our > combined income). > We have a few shared items in both of our names, including: > -Mortgage Interest > -Property Taxes > -A small amount of 1099-misc income > -A small amount of savings interest > What are our options for these items when filing separately? > Specifically... > -Can we put them on whichever return we prefer (depending on what > works out to the least tax liabliity)? > -Can we "split them up" -- e.g. put half of the mortgage interest on > mine, half on hers? or in a 60/40, etc. split? > -Are there any regulations for how to divide them (e.g. do property > taxes and mortgage interest have to be on the same return?) > -Do we have to somehow document on one return that the "missing items" > are on the spouse's return? > Any advice would be appreciated. your split is pretty much mandated at 50% each for every item mentioned per state law. Otherwise, the 1099-Misc income belongs to the ONE wh is the sole-proprietor. The other items may be split as you see fit. By indicating MFS and identifying your spouse, you've done all you need to do regarding the "missing items" issue. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| CallMeZoot wrote: - quote - > After crunching some numbers I have figured out that it MIGHT work out
That alone is usually not enough to make MFS better than MFJ. How much> better if my wife and I file as "Married Filing Separately" (she has > several part time jobs which significantly under-withheld based on our > combined income). of an advantage does your initial estimate lead to? Are you losing credits and subject to stricter limitations under MFS? - quote - > We have a few shared items in both of our names, including:
No. First, if you are in a community property state, special rules> -Mortgage Interest > -Property Taxes > -A small amount of 1099-misc income > -A small amount of savings interest > What are our options for these items when filing separately? > Specifically... > -Can we put them on whichever return we prefer (depending on what > works out to the least tax liabliity)? apply -- in short, community income is split 50-50 regardless of who it originated with. Second, income belongs to the person who either earned it or owns the property which generated it, so that is what is reported on each person's return. Third, deductions belong to the person who owed the money and who actually paid it out of their own funds. (Exceptions apply, but that's the general principle). - quote - > -Can we "split them up" -- e.g. put half of the mortgage interest on
It would be a good idea.> mine, half on hers? or in a 60/40, etc. split? > -Are there any regulations for how to divide them (e.g. do property > taxes and mortgage interest have to be on the same return?) > -Do we have to somehow document on one return that the "missing items" > are on the spouse's return? -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| After crunching some numbers I have figured out that it MIGHT work out better if my wife and I file as "Married Filing Separately" (she has several part time jobs which significantly under-withheld based on our combined income). We have a few shared items in both of our names, including: -Mortgage Interest -Property Taxes -A small amount of 1099-misc income -A small amount of savings interest What are our options for these items when filing separately? Specifically... -Can we put them on whichever return we prefer (depending on what works out to the least tax liabliity)? -Can we "split them up" -- e.g. put half of the mortgage interest on mine, half on hers? or in a 60/40, etc. split? -Are there any regulations for how to divide them (e.g. do property taxes and mortgage interest have to be on the same return?) -Do we have to somehow document on one return that the "missing items" are on the spouse's return? Any advice would be appreciated. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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