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| In article <fnvtj9$8gs$1[at]jik3.kamens.brookline.ma.us> , Jonathan Kamens <jik[at]kamens.brookline.ma.us> wrote: - quote - > I have Israeli bonds (some given to us as gifts, some purchased; some > in our SSNs, some in our children's SSNs under UTMA MA) that I believe > are zero coupon bonds, for which we are sent 1099-OID statement each > year. > Please verify that my understanding of each of these points is correct: > * For the bonds under our children's SSNs, I use the unearned income > test (they have no earned income) to determine whether each child needs > to file, and if the child doesn't need to file, then I don't need to > report or pay taxes on the the 1099-OID income for that child. Right. Last year if a child received not more than $850 in unearned income and no earned income there is no filing requirement. - quote - > * For the bonds under our SSNs, I report and pay interest on them each
With OID instruments acquired as IPOs, your cost plus the sum of all> year, and then when the bond matures and we are sent the proceeds, I > use a cost basis that is the same as the amount of money they send us, > since I've already paid taxes through the income reported on the > 1099-OIDs. OID earnings you received should equal the redemption value at maturity. So you report the sale (redemption) amount and cost will be the same, for no gain or loss. - quote - > * For bonds given to us as gifts, as long as we don't run afoul of the
Not exactly.> limits for tax-free gift giving from any individual in a given year, we > don't have to pay taxes on the value of the bond when we receive it, > i.e., its purchase price, and our cost basis then becomes that value. > Then, when the bond matures, we're in the same situation as above, and > our cost basis is the same as the proceeds because of the 1099-OIDs. The cost basis will be the same as the giver's cost basis and the purchase date is the same as the giver's. In the unlikely event that the fair market of the bond went down modulo OID amounts, the bond is subject to a dual basis, but by maturity you can be sure the giver's cost is the one to use. Moreover, the business about gift tax does not affect you. Any gift tax filings because a person gifted more than the annual exclusion amount (12,000) to any other person, not a spouse, is the responsibility of the giver, not the recipient. -- ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| I have Israeli bonds (some given to us as gifts, some purchased; some in our SSNs, some in our children's SSNs under UTMA MA) that I believe are zero coupon bonds, for which we are sent 1099-OID statement each year. Please verify that my understanding of each of these points is correct: * For the bonds under our children's SSNs, I use the unearned income test (they have no earned income) to determine whether each child needs to file, and if the child doesn't need to file, then I don't need to report or pay taxes on the the 1099-OID income for that child. * For the bonds under our SSNs, I report and pay interest on them each year, and then when the bond matures and we are sent the proceeds, I use a cost basis that is the same as the amount of money they send us, since I've already paid taxes through the income reported on the 1099-OIDs. * For bonds given to us as gifts, as long as we don't run afoul of the limits for tax-free gift giving from any individual in a given year, we don't have to pay taxes on the value of the bond when we receive it, i.e., its purchase price, and our cost basis then becomes that value. Then, when the bond matures, we're in the same situation as above, and our cost basis is the same as the proceeds because of the 1099-OIDs. Have I got all that right? Thanks, Jonathan Kamens -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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