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| On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 09:59:54 EST, joetaxpayer <joetaxpayer[at]nospam.comwrote: - quote - > I owned a rental condo jointly with a friend. In the description we
Myself and an unrelated person also own rental properties (two office> added "jointly owned with smith/jones SS#xxx-xx-xxxx. > I kept the records, and we never had any issue. All expenses were taken > 50/50. > JOE condos) that we rent out. We provide no other services and do not file partnership returns. In Taxcut, on the worksheet, there is a spot for "percent ownership if less than 100". That percent would get appended to the description on schedule E. The only issue was that the 1099's associated with the rental income would get made out to me, using my SSN. So I would then turn around and issue a 1099 to my "partner" for his 50% share. (That turned out to be simpler than trying to get the lessee's to make out two 1099's). --ron -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Mark Bole wrote: - quote - > Why can't a passive rental activity (no services are provided) be
I owned a rental condo jointly with a friend. In the description we> treated as a business investment, with each owner reporting their own > share of rental income and expense on Schedule E? > Among other written materials, I see where Pub 527 states "If you own a > part interest in rental property, you must report your part of the > rental income from the property". Ditto for expenses. Later, it > indicates the place to report income and expenses is Schedule E (front > page). > -Mark Bole added "jointly owned with smith/jones SS#xxx-xx-xxxx. I kept the records, and we never had any issue. All expenses were taken 50/50. JOE -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Paul Thomas, CPA wrote: - quote - > "inky dink" <isisis[at]skl.not> wrote
Why can't a passive rental activity (no services are provided) be> > partnership return? I don't think that is necessary (see recent thread). > Is there a way two unrelated individuals can file their business/rental > activity except as a partnership? treated as a business investment, with each owner reporting their own share of rental income and expense on Schedule E? Among other written materials, I see where Pub 527 states "If you own a part interest in rental property, you must report your part of the rental income from the property". Ditto for expenses. Later, it indicates the place to report income and expenses is Schedule E (front page). -Mark Bole -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 08:16:09 EST, "Paul Thomas, CPA" <paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > Is there a way two unrelated individuals can file their business/rental
What about this statement from Pub 541:> activity except as a partnership? "For example, co-ownership of property maintained and rented or leased is not a partnership unless the co-owners provide services to the tenants." --ron -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Jan 24, 8:47 pm, "inky dink" <isi...[at]skl.not> wrote: - quote - > "Paul Thomas" <paulthomas...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message
agreed. depreciation is not an optional deduction. also, the divorced> news:QYamj.62076$_m.47634[at]bignews4.bellsouth.net... > partnership return? I don't think that is necessary (see recent thread). > "go ahead and take the depreciation" - I am sure you did not intend this, > but that sounds rather optional. You MUST take the depreciation (well, you > don't HAVE to, but when it comes time to count your profits, the IRS will > treat it as if you did). couple should probably file two separate sch. e's with the income and expenses divided accordingly. no sense in filing a partnership return imho. -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "inky dink" <isisis[at]skl.not> wrote - quote - > partnership return? I don't think that is necessary (see recent thread). Is there a way two unrelated individuals can file their business/rental activity except as a partnership? -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Paul Thomas" <paulthomascpa[at]bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:QYamj.62076$_m.47634[at]bignews4.bellsouth.net... - quote - > "Alex M" <lallavj[at]yahoomail.com> wrote
partnership return? I don't think that is necessary (see recent thread).> > My Ex and I rented our house during 2007 starting Jan 2007 and did not > > use the house as our residence during 2007. We got divorced towards the > > end of 2007. Now we have a net income of $500 during 2007 after > > deducting all expenses and taxes etc but without the depreication. Where > > should I indicate on the Schedule E to indicate that this $500 is a joint > > income with each of us accountable for $250 each.? Also is it necessary > > to take the depreciation > You should probably be filing a partnership return for 2007 for the rental > activity. You would split the net partnership profits via the K-1's > associated with that return. > Yes, go ahead and take depreciation. > Since it looks like you two still have the house, you'll need to do this > again for 2008. "go ahead and take the depreciation" - I am sure you did not intend this, but that sounds rather optional. You MUST take the depreciation (well, you don't HAVE to, but when it comes time to count your profits, the IRS will treat it as if you did). -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| On Jan 24, 7:25*pm, "Alex M" <lall...[at]yahoomail.com> wrote: - quote - > My Ex and I rented our house during 2007 starting Jan 2007 and did not use
Who has the property as a result of the divorce?> the house as our residence during 2007. We got divorced towards the end of > 2007. *Now we have a net income of $500 during 2007 after deducting all > expenses and taxes etc but without the depreication. Where should I indicate > on the Schedule E to indicate that this $500 is a joint income with each of > us accountable for $250 each.? Also is it necessary to take the > depreciation? > Thanks > VJ- > -- -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Alex M" <lallavj[at]yahoomail.com> wrote - quote - > My Ex and I rented our house during 2007 starting Jan 2007 and did not use > the house as our residence during 2007. We got divorced towards the end of > 2007. Now we have a net income of $500 during 2007 after deducting all > expenses and taxes etc but without the depreication. Where should I > indicate on the Schedule E to indicate that this $500 is a joint income > with each of us accountable for $250 each.? Also is it necessary to take > the depreciation You should probably be filing a partnership return for 2007 for the rental activity. You would split the net partnership profits via the K-1's associated with that return. Yes, go ahead and take depreciation. Since it looks like you two still have the house, you'll need to do this again for 2008. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| My Ex and I rented our house during 2007 starting Jan 2007 and did not use the house as our residence during 2007. We got divorced towards the end of 2007. Now we have a net income of $500 during 2007 after deducting all expenses and taxes etc but without the depreication. Where should I indicate on the Schedule E to indicate that this $500 is a joint income with each of us accountable for $250 each.? Also is it necessary to take the depreciation? Thanks VJ- -- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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