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Old 01-14-2008, 12:48 AM
John L
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Default Re: Recession, tax consequences & loss carryover - HELP!

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> This will be my first year trying to make financial decision and
> understand/file taxes by myself (hubby died recently) and I've got
> some question that I'm hoping you can help me with.


I agree that the near future for the market looks iffy, but more
importantly I concur with the advice not to make any quick moves. As
a new widow, you're in a new financial situation and I think you'll be
better off and feel better about your situation if you figure out what
that situation is first, then think about what financial changes to
make to reflect it.

I wouldn't worry too much about the lack of nearby financial advisors
since way too many alleged advisors are actually thinly disguised
salesmen whose recommendations somehow always tend to be things that
pay them commissions. (I live next door to a stock broker, and
although he's a nice enough guy, I wouldn't dream of letting him get
his hands on my money.)

Here are some books that I've found useful to figure out my financial
situation, all of which should be available in a nearby library, or
you can buy inexpensively online:

Eric Tyson, "Personal Finance for Dummies". Don't be put off by the
title, he's a good writer and knows what he's talking about.

Andew Tobias, "The Only Investment Guide You'll Ever Need." This
modestly named book mostly tells you about all the dumb things you
can avoid by not doing them.

Burton Malkiel, "A Random Walk down Wall Street." Slightly more
technical, but well written by a Princeton professor. This is the
book that told us all to stop chasing trendy investments and in the
long run index funds do at least as well.

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Old 01-13-2008, 10:26 PM
joetaxpayer
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Default Re: Recession, tax consequences & loss carryover - HELP!

sandy wrote:
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> I've been toying with the idea of selling a good portion of our
> portfolio as I keep hearing that a recession is coming. I'm guessing
> that there would be tax consequences if I did so. My husband and I in
> past years sold off a number of poorly performing stocks (tech stuff)
> at quite a loss. Can I offset any current stock gains by that
> carryover loss or is it limited to $3,000 (or is that $3,000 limit
> offset refer only to earned income?). The stocks that we sold were in
> joint name.


First, sorry for your loss. This is not the time to make rash decisions.

The losses first apply to to any gains during the year, then up to $3K
against ordinary income, then if any remains, it gets carried forward.

I don't have the data handy, but a money manager who was a guess on
Maria Bartiromo's* show last week remarked that the S&P averaged 9%
during times of recession. A recession tends to drive interest rates
down, which in turn makes shock, esp dividend paying stocks, more valuable.

While I'd not recommend the 'selling a good portion', I would look at
your allocation, and find the mix that lets you sleep at night. Keep in
mind, you will likely see rates continue to drop further, and that means
whatever you moved to money market funds will see yields drop following
short term rates.

A number of index funds and/or ETFs can be used to create the right
allocation, one that should take minimal effort to manage (you glance at
the current percent and make a shift if it's out of whack compared to
your target allocation.)

Not having a profile on you, I'll suggest this statement, and leave it
for others to help modify:

"If the market dropped 30% by one year from now, I would buy more stock
to get right back to my target allocation."

Your current allocation should be a mix so you agree with this
statement. You see, if a drop of that magnitude would scare you out of
the market and you would panic, your allocation is too high.

JOE
*I don't pay attention to the stock picking, I watch for the Greenspan
interview, and listened to this one guest remark on a piece of historic
data.

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Old 01-13-2008, 09:30 PM
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Default Re: Recession, tax consequences & loss carryover - HELP!

In article <7b050b55-f2d8-47c4-a794-a0bceaf2e056[at]s13g2000prd.googlegroups.com> ,
sandy <fossilnut[at]isp.com> wrote:

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> I've been toying with the idea of selling a good portion of our
> portfolio as I keep hearing that a recession is coming. I'm guessing
> that there would be tax consequences if I did so. My husband and I in
> past years sold off a number of poorly performing stocks (tech stuff)
> at quite a loss. Can I offset any current stock gains by that
> carryover loss or is it limited to $3,000 (or is that $3,000 limit
> offset refer only to earned income?).


You can offset current gains with carryover loss until you run out.
You can also offset up to $3,000 of ordinary income with carryover
loss.

Seth

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Old 01-13-2008, 09:16 PM
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sandy wrote:
....questions about subject...

I would add to Harlan's advice to _NOT_ be precipitate in making
decisions here...depending on age, if you were comfortable w/ hubby
holding these investments, it might just well be you've got time to ride
it out, anyway. Are they in IRA or other retirement accounts or not is
another major factor. There are just too many unknowns and this isn't a
good place for specific advice so I'd again urge caution in going too fast.

The $3000 is a annual carryover maximum for that small detail...what you
wouldn't use this year could/would be carried to next.

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Old 01-13-2008, 08:53 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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sandy wrote:
- quote -

> This will be my first year trying to make financial decision and
> understand/file taxes by myself (hubby died recently) and I've got
> some question that I'm hoping you can help me with.
> I've been toying with the idea of selling a good portion of our
> portfolio as I keep hearing that a recession is coming. I'm guessing
> that there would be tax consequences if I did so. My husband and I in
> past years sold off a number of poorly performing stocks (tech stuff)
> at quite a loss. Can I offset any current stock gains by that
> carryover loss or is it limited to $3,000 (or is that $3,000 limit
> offset refer only to earned income?). The stocks that we sold were in
> joint name.
> Also like opinions as to whether this is something that I should be
> considering doing or should I just let investments sit in the account
> (The great majority is invested in mutual funds). And should I decide
> to sell, is a money market the best option or are their better
> investments in times of recession?
> I live in a tiny town and have to travel 50 miles just to see a
> traffic light. I don't believe that we have any (or any good)
> financial advisors locally. Would it be worthwhile taking the trip to
> consult one? And if yes, how do I make a decision as to who to call?
> Appreciate your opinions.
> Sandy

While I can not give you financial advise.......! Really, I shouldn't
and won't. However.....

1. There are financial advisers and yet even more financial advisers.
Some are fee only, meaning they are not in the business of selling
stocks, bonds, mutual funds, annuities, etc... If you want to find
an adviser, this is the guy to look for, and chances are he won't be
even 50 miles away, but in a much larger burg.

2. You say most investments are in mutual funds. Good, I say.
Use an internet site like Yahoo Finance to look at each one, paying
attention to Morningstar ratings of the funds. If they're four stars,
hold em. If the investment is common stock, and analysts don't like
em, i.e. average recommendation of 2.5 or less, fold em.

I guess I'm saying take a look first and see if you can make heads or
tails out it.

Many clients ask me for advise, but all I can tell them is what I would
do if I were in their situation(s).

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-13-2008, 08:15 PM
sandy
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Default Recession, tax consequences & loss carryover - HELP!

This will be my first year trying to make financial decision and
understand/file taxes by myself (hubby died recently) and I've got
some question that I'm hoping you can help me with.

I've been toying with the idea of selling a good portion of our
portfolio as I keep hearing that a recession is coming. I'm guessing
that there would be tax consequences if I did so. My husband and I in
past years sold off a number of poorly performing stocks (tech stuff)
at quite a loss. Can I offset any current stock gains by that
carryover loss or is it limited to $3,000 (or is that $3,000 limit
offset refer only to earned income?). The stocks that we sold were in
joint name.

Also like opinions as to whether this is something that I should be
considering doing or should I just let investments sit in the account
(The great majority is invested in mutual funds). And should I decide
to sell, is a money market the best option or are their better
investments in times of recession?

I live in a tiny town and have to travel 50 miles just to see a
traffic light. I don't believe that we have any (or any good)
financial advisors locally. Would it be worthwhile taking the trip to
consult one? And if yes, how do I make a decision as to who to call?
Appreciate your opinions.

Sandy

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