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Old 01-10-2008, 02:13 AM
Paul Thomas
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Default Re: When is it income? When does it have to be depreciated?


<StoneMountain66[at]gmail.com> wrote
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> Two questions from a week-end bed and breakfast type company:
> When is it income?
> For example, weekend balance is due 30 days before arrival.
> Guests pay Dec. 2007 for January 20th 2008 retreat.
> Is the income and sales tax 4th quarter 2007 (when we recieve it)
> OR first quarter 2008 (when we earn it)?



The taxing authority (federal, state, sales tax, etc) will try to call it
income at the earliest time.

If it's not refundable....then it's income when received, or the later of
when the refund period lapses (ie: if no refunds within 10 days), or at the
end, when the services are rendered.




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> Sales tax on deposit?

If you're asking if the deposit is subject to sales tax, ask yoru
state/local agency.

As far as when any lodging tax/sales tax would be due, it should follow the
recognition of the income.




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> Similar question to the one above. We require a $50
> deposit to reserved a spot for a weekend. We charge
> tax on the deposit to keep each payment at the county
> required 3.7% sales tax. It that correct? (we aren't
> filing the sales tax until the quarter they arrive)



If it's a taxable "sale", then it's taxable when you would record that
transaction as income. If all the events have happened for the money
received, meaning they give you a deposit that is
never-ever-in-a-million-years-going-to-be-refunded, then it's income (and
subject to sales tax) when received. If it could be refunded, it's a
liability on your books. It becomes income (and subject to sales tax) when
you've met your end of the deal (you held the room for them).




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> When is it a Fixed Asset?
> Is every purchase under $1000 an expense?


No.



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> For example, we bought an espresso machine for $600.
> Do we have to expense this long-lived asset
> over multiple years through depreciation deductions?




$600 isn't a small asset. cApitalize it and if you elect, take Section 179
to expense it in that fashion. If audited, and they reclassify those types
of expenses (and they will), you lose the option to deduct through 179 and
have to depreciate over 7 years.





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> Lease building improvement over $1000
> Is a lease building improvement that cost over $1000
> just a fixed asset?


> Or does it have to be a separate fixed asset category, - to be
> expensed over multiple years through depreciation?



Leasehold improvements are over 39 years for commercial property, regardless
of the term of the lease.





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> Depreciation occurs of a number of years.
> How is the number of years determined?



Congress decided.






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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

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Old 01-09-2008, 10:50 PM
StoneMountain66@gmail.com
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Default When is it income? When does it have to be depreciated?

Two questions from a week-end bed and breakfast type company:

When is it income?
For example, weekend balance is due 30 days before arrival.
Guests pay Dec. 2007 for January 20th 2008 retreat.
Is the income and sales tax 4th quarter 2007 (when we recieve it)
OR first quarter 2008 (when we earn it)?

Sales tax on deposit?
Similar question to the one above. We require a $50 deposit to
reserved
a spot for a weekend. We charge tax on the deposit to keep each
payment at the
county required 3.7% sales tax. It that correct? (we aren't filing the
sales tax until the quarter they arrive)

When is it a Fixed Asset?
Is every purchase under $1000 an expense? For example, we bought an
espresso
machine for $600. Do we have to expense this long-lived asset
over multiple years through depreciation deductions?

Lease building improvement over $1000
Is a lease building improvement that cost over $1000 just a fixed
asset?
Or does it have to be a separate fixed asset category, - to be
expensed over multiple
years through depreciation?

Depreciation occurs of a number of years. How is the number of years
determined?

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