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Old 01-07-2008, 12:48 AM
Barry Margolin
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In article <3cegj.40904$Mu4.11955[at]bignews7.bellsouth.net> ,
"Paul Thomas" <paulthomascpa[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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> "Bob Sandler" <bob_usenet[at]yahoo.com> wrote
> > "Paul Thomas" <paulthomascpa[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > > Never supply your work number. A home or cell number would suffice.
> > > Why not give your work number?

> Who is answering the phone?


I don't think anyone would be silly enough to give their work number
unless it went directly to their phone.

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> And is it company policy that you can receive
> "personal" calls at work?


Most companies allow a reasonable amount of personal use of business
phones. It's more likely that the company wouldn't want you taking ANY
personal phone calls while you're supposed to be working -- whether it's
on your office phone or cell phone is less relevant. The only real
difference is that the company might be able to tell that you're doing
this if you use the company phone.

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> It's just not good to leave your work number.
> > If the IRS is going to call, aren't they going to call during
> > business hours, at least initially?

> Maybe, maybe not. During tax season they work screwy hours. In any event,
> they can leave a message and you can call them back on your time.


But they're specifically asking for a *daytime* number. Regardless of
what hours the tax guys work, why would they call *this* number outside
of business hours?

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Old 01-06-2008, 11:18 PM
Paul Thomas
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"Bob Sandler" <bob_usenet[at]yahoo.com> wrote
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> "Paul Thomas" <paulthomascpa[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
> > Never supply your work number. A home or cell number would suffice.

> Why not give your work number?



Who is answering the phone? And is it company policy that you can receive
"personal" calls at work?

It's just not good to leave your work number.



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> If the IRS is going to call, aren't they going to call during
> business hours, at least initially?



Maybe, maybe not. During tax season they work screwy hours. In any event,
they can leave a message and you can call them back on your time.


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> If you get a W-2, they know where you work.


They know where you ~did~ work. Besides, the person calling you doesn't
have that information.



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> The only drawback I can see is if your work phone
> might be answered by someone whom you wouldn't
> want to know that you got a call from the IRS.



Unless you're self-employed, don't leave a work number.



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> But if that's not an issue (for example, no one answers
> my office phone if I'm not there), then why not?



What's your company policy on phone usage? Who has access to your voice
mail?


Just let them call your home or cell number. You can return the call on
your own time. And - when you might have a chance to have your files in
front of you. What do you keep at work that is helpful to you in answering
some questions from the IRS on an off-the-cuff basis?



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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

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Old 01-06-2008, 10:11 PM
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"Paul Thomas" <paulthomascpa[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> Never supply your work number. A home or cell number would suffice.

Why not give your work number? If the IRS is going to call,
aren't they going to call during business hours, at least
initially? If you get a W-2, they know where you work. The
only drawback I can see is if your work phone might be
answered by someone whom you wouldn't want to know that you
got a call from the IRS. But if that's not an issue (for
example, no one answers my office phone if I'm not there),
then why not?

Bob Sandler

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Old 01-06-2008, 12:35 AM
Rick Merrill
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harry_lewis[at]yahoo.com wrote:
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> Hi,
> On Form 1040 there is a place to enter a daytime phone number. It is
> on the same line as the signature, just to the right of the space for
> "Occupation." My tax preparation software never prompts me to enter a
> daytime phone number, so that space is always blank when I print my
> return. I've always assumed that the phone number isn't required
> information, and that must be why my software never asks me to enter
> it.
> Is my assumption that the phone number isn't required information
> correct? And if it's not required, would it be better to include it
> anyway?
> Harry


The IRS can no longer be certain that they can find your phone number
because many cell phones are not listed in 411.

The quasi-official reason for it is that if there is some dumb mistake
that they can see (like you swapped two digits of your social) then they
can call you to verify the correction. Riiight.

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Old 01-05-2008, 03:57 PM
Paul Thomas
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<harry_lewis[at]yahoo.com> wrote
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> On Form 1040 there is a place to enter a daytime phone number. It is
> on the same line as the signature, just to the right of the space for
> "Occupation." My tax preparation software never prompts me to enter a
> daytime phone number, so that space is always blank when I print my
> return. I've always assumed that the phone number isn't required
> information, and that must be why my software never asks me to enter
> it.
> Is my assumption that the phone number isn't required information
> correct? And if it's not required, would it be better to include it
> anyway?




As noted it's not required, but for processing issues it's probably helpful.
Never supply your work number. A home or cell number would suffice.





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Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

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Old 01-05-2008, 02:26 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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pleasedontemailme[at]dot.com wrote:
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> When I prepare tax returns and the taxpayer wants to fill in that
> block, I ask, "Do you WANT the IRS to call you? Or would you rather
> they sent a letter?"


Third choice: "Don't call me: I'll call you!"

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-05-2008, 02:12 PM
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harry_lewis[at]yahoo.com posted:

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> Hi,
> On Form 1040 there is a place to enter a
> daytime phone number. It is on the same line
> as the signature, just to the right of the space
> for "Occupation." My tax preparation software
> never prompts me to enter a daytime phone
> number, so that space is always blank when I
> print my return. I've always assumed that the
> phone number isn't required information, and
> that must be why my software never asks me
> to enter it.
> Is my assumption that the phone number isn't
> required information correct? And if it's not
> required, would it be better to include it
> anyway?


You're correct, and it is not required. But having noted other replies
suggesting it's better not to enter it, I thought I would offer an
alternative view. (Please note I'm a volunteer, unpaid preparer, so my
views might be affected by that status.)

I always advise TPs that since the IRS can obtain their home phone
number through either published (or internet 411) sources anyway, why
not make it easy for them to phone you? My logic is, if they're willing
to attempt to resolve a possible problem verbally, it is most probably a
pretty simple, easily-corrected issue which I would prefer to dispose of
with a few words on the phone, than to receive a written communication
that requires a written response.

Of course, after sharing that personal view, I always advise them it's
their choice, and do as they decide.

Bill

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Old 01-04-2008, 10:03 PM
pleasedontemailme@dot.com
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On Fri, 4 Jan 2008 17:35:07 EST, harry_lewis[at]yahoo.com wrote:

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> Hi,
> On Form 1040 there is a place to enter a daytime phone number. It is
> on the same line as the signature, just to the right of the space for
> "Occupation." My tax preparation software never prompts me to enter a
> daytime phone number, so that space is always blank when I print my
> return. I've always assumed that the phone number isn't required
> information, and that must be why my software never asks me to enter
> it.
> Is my assumption that the phone number isn't required information
> correct? And if it's not required, would it be better to include it
> anyway?
> Harry


When I prepare tax returns and the taxpayer wants to fill in that
block, I ask, "Do you WANT the IRS to call you? Or would you rather
they sent a letter?"

-Crystal

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Old 01-04-2008, 09:57 PM
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In article <6f82130f-8274-4447-bc79-7bbabfcbfa55[at]f3g2000hsg.googlegroups.com> ,
<harry_lewis[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
- quote -

> Hi,
> On Form 1040 there is a place to enter a daytime phone number. It is
> on the same line as the signature, just to the right of the space for
> "Occupation." My tax preparation software never prompts me to enter a
> daytime phone number, so that space is always blank when I print my
> return. I've always assumed that the phone number isn't required
> information, and that must be why my software never asks me to enter
> it.
> Is my assumption that the phone number isn't required information
> correct? And if it's not required, would it be better to include it
> anyway?



It's not required and my personal practice is not to include it.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:35 PM
harry_lewis@yahoo.com
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Default Daytime phone number on 1040 required?

Hi,

On Form 1040 there is a place to enter a daytime phone number. It is
on the same line as the signature, just to the right of the space for
"Occupation." My tax preparation software never prompts me to enter a
daytime phone number, so that space is always blank when I print my
return. I've always assumed that the phone number isn't required
information, and that must be why my software never asks me to enter
it.

Is my assumption that the phone number isn't required information
correct? And if it's not required, would it be better to include it
anyway?

Harry

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