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Old 12-28-2007, 05:39 PM
Hauslohn
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Default Re: "Wash Sales" - recapture before end of year?

On Dec 27, 4:07*pm, "Phil Marti" <prm20...[at]verizon.net> wrote:
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> "Hauslohn" wrote:
> > Unknowingly we incurred Wash Sale losses which were "lost" to us as we
> > bought back into them within 30 days or had traded with 30 days prior

> The losses weren't lost, they were deferred until you sell the stock in
> question and don't buy it back within the 61 day period around the sale
> date. *Since a wash sale requires that you still own the stock, you just
> adjust the basis for the stock you still hold. *The wash sale loss is thus
> factored into your gain/loss calculation when you actually dispose of the
> stock.
> > ( accounts are ordinary, not IRA, etc) - many of these concern *stocks
> > which we will probably invest in again ( in some cases we have). * The
> > question is.....in order to recapture these
> > " lost losses" where we are not in the stock now but like it and will
> > buy it back again,

> This makes no sense. *If you no longer hold any of the stock, your wash sale
> loss has already been recognized.
> See IRS Publication 550.
> --
> Phil Marti
> Clarksburg, MD
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Our thanks to the both of you.... we will now " digest" your help and
the IRS Publication
- Our best wishes for a happy and successful 2008

Hauslohn

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Old 12-27-2007, 08:07 PM
Phil Marti
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Default Re: "Wash Sales" - recapture before end of year?

"Hauslohn" wrote:

- quote -

> Unknowingly we incurred Wash Sale losses which were "lost" to us as we
> bought back into them within 30 days or had traded with 30 days prior


The losses weren't lost, they were deferred until you sell the stock in
question and don't buy it back within the 61 day period around the sale
date. Since a wash sale requires that you still own the stock, you just
adjust the basis for the stock you still hold. The wash sale loss is thus
factored into your gain/loss calculation when you actually dispose of the
stock.

- quote -

> ( accounts are ordinary, not IRA, etc) - many of these concern stocks
> which we will probably invest in again ( in some cases we have). The
> question is.....in order to recapture these
> " lost losses" where we are not in the stock now but like it and will
> buy it back again,


This makes no sense. If you no longer hold any of the stock, your wash sale
loss has already been recognized.

See IRS Publication 550.

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Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 12-27-2007, 07:53 PM
joetaxpayer
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Default Re: "Wash Sales" - recapture before end of year?



Hauslohn wrote:

- quote -

> Unknowingly we incurred Wash Sale losses which were "lost" to us as we
> bought back into them within 30 days or had traded with 30 days prior
> ( accounts are ordinary, not IRA, etc) - many of these concern stocks
> which we will probably invest in again ( in some cases we have). The
> question is.....in order to recapture these
> " lost losses" where we are not in the stock now but like it and will
> buy it back again, do we need to buy back in again " before" the
> year's end in order to add the Wash sale losses back as part of our
> cost basis - or do the Wash Sale losses carry over into 2008?
> Thanks in advance for any help
> Hauslohn


You state "where we are not in the stock now". If you no longer hold the
stock, the wash sale either doesn't apply, or did apply but you recouped
it. If you are now sitting on a loss, don't buy it back until 31 days
after the last sale on the stock, that sale should contain the allowed
loss. Wash sale losses don't 'carry' year to year, they follow the
shares you bought which created the issue in the first place.
JOE

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Old 12-27-2007, 05:33 PM
Hauslohn
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Default "Wash Sales" - recapture before end of year?

Unknowingly we incurred Wash Sale losses which were "lost" to us as we
bought back into them within 30 days or had traded with 30 days prior
( accounts are ordinary, not IRA, etc) - many of these concern stocks
which we will probably invest in again ( in some cases we have). The
question is.....in order to recapture these
" lost losses" where we are not in the stock now but like it and will
buy it back again, do we need to buy back in again " before" the
year's end in order to add the Wash sale losses back as part of our
cost basis - or do the Wash Sale losses carry over into 2008?

Thanks in advance for any help
Hauslohn

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<< ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- >
 

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