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Old 12-24-2007, 09:59 PM
Bill Brown
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Default Re: moving expenses / paying for mileage and meals of helpers

On Dec 24, 10:27*am, Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsf...[at]bellsouth.netwrote:

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> Well I don't think I would argue that one atall. * But if meals might be
> deductible (and why only 50% anyway? *not business related), why not the
> paying for a haircut for the two guys with a truck?


If the movers were unrelated business people and paid their own meal
costs they would be limited to 50% of those costs (except for an OTR
truck driver). If the customer reimbursed any part of those meal costs
he/she would get to deduct 50% of the reimbursement as a moving
expense. If the movers were relatives working only for expenses then
the person getting moved would not, in my opinion, suddenly get to
deduct 100% of the reimbursement. On the other hand, I believe it is
arguable that the 50% of meals reimbursed does continue to be a
deductible moving expense.

As I noted in my original response, none of the costs incurred to
support house hunting are deductible as moving expenses.

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Old 12-24-2007, 05:11 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Karl Magdono wrote:
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> On Dec 24, 10:27 am, Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

> > Well I don't think I would argue that one atall. But if meals might be
> > deductible (and why only 50% anyway? not business related), why not the
> > paying for a haircut for the two guys with a truck?
> > > Christmas ChEAr$,

> > Harlan

> Harlan, I don't understand your point about 50% and being business
> related. My move was for work.


If you were in business for yourself and moving business assets, then
such moving expenses would be deductible, and meals of course subject to
the 50% rule. But in this case, your move was in connection with work,
which I take it to be as an employee.

Anyway, as you've already learned, those expenditures for parents' meals
aren't deductible anyhow.

Christmas ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 12-24-2007, 03:51 PM
Karl Magdono
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On Dec 24, 10:27 am, Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsf...[at]bellsouth.netwrote:
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> Bill Brown wrote:
> > On Dec 21, 11:19 pm, Karl Magdono <kmagd...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > > My parents helped me move to a new city far away for work. If I pay
> > > my for my parents' mileage when they were helping me move and look for
> > > a new home, can I then deduct that as a moving expense?
> > > I bought my parents their meals at restaurants while they were helping
> > > me move and look for a new home. According tohttp://www.irs.gov/publications/p521/ar02.html#d0e1163, I can't
> > > deduct meals for myself while traveling to my new home and searching
> > > for a home, but can I deduct the cost of my parents' meals while we
> > > were looking for my new home and then moving to it? Considering I
> > > saved money and had lower expenses by using my parents' help, it
> > > doesn't seem unreasonable to deduct expenses related to having them
> > > help.

> > First, house hunting costs are not deductible moving expenses. So, any
> > payments you made to your parents (or payments or to motel rooms or
> > transportation for yourself) provide no tax benefit if incurred while
> > you were looking for a place to live.
> > Second, arguably the costs of your movers' meals would be 50%
> > deductible by you if paid by you.

> Well I don't think I would argue that one atall. But if meals might be
> deductible (and why only 50% anyway? not business related), why not the
> paying for a haircut for the two guys with a truck?
> Christmas ChEAr$,
> Harlan


Harlan, I don't understand your point about 50% and being business
related. My move was for work.

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Old 12-24-2007, 02:27 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Default Re: moving expenses / paying for mileage and meals of helpers

Bill Brown wrote:
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> On Dec 21, 11:19 pm, Karl Magdono <kmagd...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
> > My parents helped me move to a new city far away for work. If I pay
> > my for my parents' mileage when they were helping me move and look for
> > a new home, can I then deduct that as a moving expense?
> > > I bought my parents their meals at restaurants while they were helping

> > me move and look for a new home. According tohttp://www.irs.gov/publications/p521/ar02.html#d0e1163, I can't
> > deduct meals for myself while traveling to my new home and searching
> > for a home, but can I deduct the cost of my parents' meals while we
> > were looking for my new home and then moving to it? Considering I
> > saved money and had lower expenses by using my parents' help, it
> > doesn't seem unreasonable to deduct expenses related to having them
> > help.

> First, house hunting costs are not deductible moving expenses. So, any
> payments you made to your parents (or payments or to motel rooms or
> transportation for yourself) provide no tax benefit if incurred while
> you were looking for a place to live.
> Second, arguably the costs of your movers' meals would be 50%
> deductible by you if paid by you.

Well I don't think I would argue that one atall. But if meals might be
deductible (and why only 50% anyway? not business related), why not the
paying for a haircut for the two guys with a truck?

Christmas ChEAr$,
Harlan

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Old 12-24-2007, 04:21 AM
Bill Brown
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Default Re: moving expenses / paying for mileage and meals of helpers

On Dec 21, 11:19*pm, Karl Magdono <kmagd...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
- quote -

> My parents helped me move to a new city far away for work. *If I pay
> my for my parents' mileage when they were helping me move and look for
> a new home, can I then deduct that as a moving expense?
> I bought my parents their meals at restaurants while they were helping
> me move and look for a new home. *According tohttp://www.irs.gov/publications/p521/ar02.html#d0e1163, I can't
> deduct meals for myself while traveling to my new home and searching
> for a home, but can I deduct the cost of my parents' meals while we
> were looking for my new home and then moving to it? *Considering I
> saved money and had lower expenses by using my parents' help, it
> doesn't seem unreasonable to deduct expenses related to having them
> help.


First, house hunting costs are not deductible moving expenses. So, any
payments you made to your parents (or payments or to motel rooms or
transportation for yourself) provide no tax benefit if incurred while
you were looking for a place to live.

Second, arguably the costs of your movers' meals would be 50%
deductible by you if paid by you.

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Old 12-22-2007, 03:19 AM
Karl Magdono
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Default moving expenses / paying for mileage and meals of helpers

My parents helped me move to a new city far away for work. If I pay
my for my parents' mileage when they were helping me move and look for
a new home, can I then deduct that as a moving expense?

I bought my parents their meals at restaurants while they were helping
me move and look for a new home. According to
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p521/ar02.html#d0e1163 , I can't
deduct meals for myself while traveling to my new home and searching
for a home, but can I deduct the cost of my parents' meals while we
were looking for my new home and then moving to it? Considering I
saved money and had lower expenses by using my parents' help, it
doesn't seem unreasonable to deduct expenses related to having them
help.

Thanks for your advice.

 

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