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Old 01-18-2008, 11:35 PM
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> Does TurboTax require Administrator privileges to run the program?

Versions 2005-2007 dont require.
They just dropped support of Windows 2000, which nockss out one of my
older computers. They will give a refund if doesnt run on your
computer.

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Old 01-18-2008, 12:11 AM
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On Wed, 16 Jan 2008 23:11:58 EST, MyVeryOwnSelf
<self[at]emailNot.nul> wrote:

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> > Just bought the 2007 Taxcut Premium program. Does anyone know if
> > there is a valid reason requiring that a user have Administrator
> > privileges to use Taxcut?

> Does TurboTax require Administrator privileges to run the program?


The place for questions such as these the support section of
www.turbotax.com

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Old 01-17-2008, 04:26 AM
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MyVeryOwnSelf <self[at]emailNot.nul> wrote:
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> Does TurboTax require Administrator privileges to run the program?

In my experience, no.

Una

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Old 01-17-2008, 03:12 AM
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Default Re: Why does TaxCut require user to be Administrator?

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> To run TaxCut without logging in as an administrator, right click
> the program icon while holding down shift and choose "Run As"
> from the resulting menu. Enter an administrator ID and passwd.
> From now on TaxCut should run w/o administrator login.


Ah, yes, but then when you save anything, or "print" to a file, or etc.,
etc., the results end up in the administrator's file tree or desktop
(unless you remember every time and bother to navigate to the user's). What
a pain! At least that's what typically happens when I use "Run As" with
software.

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Old 01-17-2008, 03:11 AM
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Default Does TurboTax require Administrator privileges?

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> Just bought the 2007 Taxcut Premium program. Does anyone know if
> there is a valid reason requiring that a user have Administrator
> privileges to use Taxcut?


Does TurboTax require Administrator privileges to run the program?

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Old 01-17-2008, 03:11 AM
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Default Re: Why does TaxACT (was: TaxCut) require user to be Administrator?

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> Just bought the 2007 Taxcut Premium program. Does anyone know if
> there is a valid reason requiring that a user have Administrator
> privileges to use Taxcut? I can get it (maybe) for installation, but
> just for using the program? I had an online "chat" with someone at
> H&R Block and all I got was "gee, whiz, don't know why it's required
> but it is". This is contrary to good software development & security
> practices, as far as I'm concerned.


I had the same experience with TaxACT.

I had several interactions with their tech support. Bottom line:
Administrator privileges are required to run (not just to install).

The limitation isn't documented in the Help, in the read_me, or anyplace on
the company's web site, as far as I can see.

This is all puzzling to me.

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Old 01-16-2008, 11:15 PM
David Moore
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Default Re: Why does TaxCut require user to be Administrator?

To run TaxCut without logging in as an administrator, right click
the program icon while holding down shift and choose "Run As"
from the resulting menu. Enter an administrator ID and passwd.
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> From now on TaxCut should run w/o administrator login.

David

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Old 01-16-2008, 12:46 AM
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On Dec 11 2007, 3:01*pm, patm...[at]my-deja.com wrote:
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> On Dec 10, 5:03 pm, Mark Bole <ma...[at]pacbell.net> wrote:
> > It's a Windows requirement that installing most software requires
> > administrator privileges. *However there is also a "Power Users" group
> > in Windows which will probably meet your needs after the product is
> > installed. *Security and convenience are always inversely proportional.

> OK, no argument with requiring Administrator privileges for
> installation. *Should not however need them for running application
> software. *And yes, I did try "power user" first but it did not work -
> TaxCut insisted on Admin privileges to run.
> > Macromedia is a company (now owned by Adobe), not a program. *Which
> > Macromedia product was installed? *(most likely, Flash player, to play
> > various videos and tutorials that come with the program). *Was there an
> > option to customize the installation?

> Yes, it was Macromedia Flash Player that was installed and overlayed/
> regressed a local installation which had been extensively customized
> for security purposes. *There was no option to customize the TaxCut
> installation and no warning that it was installing other non-TaxCut
> software such as Flash or also PDF999.
> > How did you do that, without administrator privileges? *The "system
> > restore" feature built in to Win XP should have made this relatively
> > easy to do without restoring a backup.

> I'm not saying that I can't have Administrator privileges when
> necessary but I don't view running applications software as
> Administrator as a good software practice - just laziness on the part
> of the software developers. *And the built-in restore function just
> cleans up registry entries. *It doesn't uninstall Flash and restore
> the previous version.


You're absolutely correct. There is no reason for normal execution to
require Administrator permissions and it definitely does require
Administrator permissions (Power User will not do). It opens up a
security hole for anyone who has adopted good operating practices and
uses a restricted login in for daily tasks. The previous version
(2006) worked fine without Admin priviledges once it was installed.
I'm sure H&R Block's IT security team would know better than to allow
an application like that on their own network. It does make you
suspicious. Was this done simply out of ignorance or because they are
routinely executing some task that you would not permit if you knew
they were doing it? While I suspect the former I'm not prepared to
take the risk and I will be looking to a different product next year.

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Old 12-11-2007, 08:06 PM
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On Dec 10, 5:25 pm, m...[at]nosam.org wrote:
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> What programs (or kinds of programs) of yours was upset by Macromedia?

TaxCut Premium Federal 2007 installed Macromedia FlashPlayer without
warning and without option. It overlayed the previous installation
and regressed extensive local security customization.

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Old 12-11-2007, 08:01 PM
patman2@my-deja.com
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On Dec 10, 5:03 pm, Mark Bole <ma...[at]pacbell.net> wrote:

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> It's a Windows requirement that installing most software requires
> administrator privileges. However there is also a "Power Users" group
> in Windows which will probably meet your needs after the product is
> installed. Security and convenience are always inversely proportional.


OK, no argument with requiring Administrator privileges for
installation. Should not however need them for running application
software. And yes, I did try "power user" first but it did not work -
TaxCut insisted on Admin privileges to run.

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> Macromedia is a company (now owned by Adobe), not a program. Which
> Macromedia product was installed? (most likely, Flash player, to play
> various videos and tutorials that come with the program). Was there an
> option to customize the installation?


Yes, it was Macromedia Flash Player that was installed and overlayed/
regressed a local installation which had been extensively customized
for security purposes. There was no option to customize the TaxCut
installation and no warning that it was installing other non-TaxCut
software such as Flash or also PDF999.

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> How did you do that, without administrator privileges? The "system
> restore" feature built in to Win XP should have made this relatively
> easy to do without restoring a backup.


I'm not saying that I can't have Administrator privileges when
necessary but I don't view running applications software as
Administrator as a good software practice - just laziness on the part
of the software developers. And the built-in restore function just
cleans up registry entries. It doesn't uninstall Flash and restore
the previous version.

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Old 12-11-2007, 12:25 AM
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On Mon, 10 Dec 2007 18:54:15 EST, patman2[at]my-deja.com wrote:

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> Just bought the 2007 Taxcut Premium program. Does anyone know if
> there is a valid reason requiring that a user have Administrator
> privileges to use Taxcut? I can get it (maybe) for installation, but
> just for using the program? I had an online "chat" with someone at
> H&R Block and all I got was "gee, whiz, don't know why it's required
> but it is". This is contrary to good software development & security
> practices, as far as I'm concerned.
> Also, the installation process installed Macromedia without any
> warning, overlaying what was already installed and highly customized.
> Had to uninstall Taxcut (not a clean process) and do a complete
> restore from backup to get my XP Pro system back to its pre-Taxcut
> health.
> This type of nonsense is why I dumped TurboTax a few years ago...


What programs (or kinds of programs) of yours was upset by Macromedia?
I also hated that TT thought I needed old versions Internet explorer
and other obsolete crap.

 
Old 12-11-2007, 12:03 AM
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patman2[at]my-deja.com wrote:
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> Just bought the 2007 Taxcut Premium program. Does anyone know if
> there is a valid reason requiring that a user have Administrator
> privileges to use Taxcut? I can get it (maybe) for installation, but
> just for using the program? I had an online "chat" with someone at
> H&R Block and all I got was "gee, whiz, don't know why it's required
> but it is". This is contrary to good software development & security
> practices, as far as I'm concerned.


(This might already be straying too far from tax-related discussion, but
I'll give it a try...)

Don't blame TaxCut, it really comes down to the way Microsoft
implemented security in their operating systems. All application
vendors must work within that framework, described here:

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/l.../bb456992.aspx

It's a Windows requirement that installing most software requires
administrator privileges. However there is also a "Power Users" group
in Windows which will probably meet your needs after the product is
installed. Security and convenience are always inversely proportional.

- quote -

> Also, the installation process installed Macromedia without any
> warning, overlaying what was already installed and highly customized.


Macromedia is a company (now owned by Adobe), not a program. Which
Macromedia product was installed? (most likely, Flash player, to play
various videos and tutorials that come with the program). Was there an
option to customize the installation?

- quote -

> Had to uninstall Taxcut (not a clean process) and do a complete
> restore from backup to get my XP Pro system back to its pre-Taxcut
> health.


How did you do that, without administrator privileges? The "system
restore" feature built in to Win XP should have made this relatively
easy to do without restoring a backup.

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> This type of nonsense is why I dumped TurboTax a few years ago...

Perhaps history repeats itself...

-Mark Bole

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Old 12-10-2007, 10:54 PM
patman2@my-deja.com
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Default Why does TaxCut require user to be Administrator?

Just bought the 2007 Taxcut Premium program. Does anyone know if
there is a valid reason requiring that a user have Administrator
privileges to use Taxcut? I can get it (maybe) for installation, but
just for using the program? I had an online "chat" with someone at
H&R Block and all I got was "gee, whiz, don't know why it's required
but it is". This is contrary to good software development & security
practices, as far as I'm concerned.

Also, the installation process installed Macromedia without any
warning, overlaying what was already installed and highly customized.
Had to uninstall Taxcut (not a clean process) and do a complete
restore from backup to get my XP Pro system back to its pre-Taxcut
health.

This type of nonsense is why I dumped TurboTax a few years ago...

 

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