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Old 11-22-2007, 04:23 PM
Stuart Bronstein
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Default Re: Reform a Credit Shelter Trust to make it a Grantor Trust?

jba wrote:

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> An irrevocable trust, e.g.a credit shelter trust, can be
> reformed (modified) with probate court approval if the
> change doesn't alter the testator's intent and meets certain
> other criteria. If the surviving spouse can be given the
> non-fiduciary power to substitute trust assets for other
> assets of equal value--per Sec 675 (4) (c)-- would the trust
> become a grantor trust, with the surviving spouse the owner
> for income tax purposes? If not, is there any reformation
> that would result in grantor trust status? Or is it just
> impossible because the original grantor (testator) is
> deceased?


It depends on why you think you want it to be a grantor trust. The
easiest thing to do is just to have all of the assets of the first
spouse to die go into the survivor's (revocable) trust. It qualifies
for the marital deduction, and it is added to a grantor trust.

It's unlikely that you could make the credit shelter (decedent's)
trust a grantor trust with respect to the surviving spouse. But I
can't think of a reason to do so.

What you can do is have the surviving spouse disclaim the right to
receive income from the trust. Then it would not qualify as a QTIP
trust, and none of the assets in the trust will, then, be taxed in
her estate but will instead be taxed in the estate of the first
spouse to die.

This is a pretty complex area of the law, so you should know just
what you want to do and why, not simply, "make it a grantor trust,"
which is never an ultimate goal.

Stu

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Old 11-19-2007, 10:10 PM
jba
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Default Reform a Credit Shelter Trust to make it a Grantor Trust?

An irrevocable trust, e.g.a credit shelter trust, can be
reformed (modified) with probate court approval if the
change doesn't alter the testator's intent and meets certain
other criteria. If the surviving spouse can be given the
non-fiduciary power to substitute trust assets for other
assets of equal value--per Sec 675 (4) (c)-- would the trust
become a grantor trust, with the surviving spouse the owner
for income tax purposes? If not, is there any reformation
that would result in grantor trust status? Or is it just
impossible because the original grantor (testator) is
deceased?

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