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| "Michael B." <mystic02removethisplease[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > I finally took a loss with a penny stock that I held over
Thank you all for the answers! Much appreciated!> the last 7 years. So here is my "hypothetical" situation: > I will have a 30K long term capital LOSS showing on my 2007 > return > I will have a 10K short term capital GAIN showing on my 2007 > return > Will the -30K + 10K = to -20K cary over for next year? > Or is it not possible to offset any long term LOSS towards > any short term GAIN? << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Michael B." <mystic02removethisplease[at]verizon.net> writes: - quote - > I finally took a loss with a penny stock that I held over
Almost. Those two will net to a $20K *long-term* loss. Then> the last 7 years. So here is my "hypothetical" situation: > I will have a 30K long term capital LOSS showing on my 2007 > return > I will have a 10K short term capital GAIN showing on my 2007 > return > Will the -30K + 10K = to -20K cary over for next year? $3K of that will be taken against your ordinary income (no choice), leaving a $17K *long-term* carryover to next year. -- Rich Carreiro rlc-news[at]rlcarr.com << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Michael B." <mystic02removethisple...[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > I finally took a loss with a penny stock that I held over
You must enter these transactions on Shedule D and take> the last 7 years. So here is my "hypothetical" situation: > I will have a 30K long term capital LOSS showing on my 2007 > return > I will have a 10K short term capital GAIN showing on my 2007 > return > Will the -30K + 10K = to -20K cary over for next year? > Or is it not possible to offset any long term LOSS towards > any short term GAIN? $3,000 of the loss on 1040line 13. Then the remaining $17,000 carries over on the Capital Loss Carryover Worksheet. Yes, your long term loss will offset short term gains if there are no other gains or losses involved. ed << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Michael B. wrote: - quote - > I finally took a loss with a penny stock that I held over
Close. If the above is all you have, the $20K loss is taken> the last 7 years. So here is my "hypothetical" situation: > I will have a 30K long term capital LOSS showing on my 2007 > return > I will have a 10K short term capital GAIN showing on my 2007 > return > Will the -30K + 10K = to -20K cary over for next year? > Or is it not possible to offset any long term LOSS towards > any short term GAIN? as $3K against ordinary income (!) and $17K is carried forward. The sequence is to first net long term losses again long term gains, then short against stort, then netting what remains as I did above. The $17K loss, if you have no further gains will be used up as $3K per year against ordinary income until it's used up. JOE www.blog.joetaxpayer.com << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Michael B. <mystic02removethisplease[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > I finally took a loss with a penny stock that I held over
You also get to use 3K against ordinary income this year, so> the last 7 years. So here is my "hypothetical" situation: > I will have a 30K long term capital LOSS showing on my 2007 > return > I will have a 10K short term capital GAIN showing on my 2007 > return > Will the -30K + 10K = to -20K cary over for next year? 17K loss carries forward. Seth << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| mystic02removethisplease[at]verizon.net (Michael=A0B.) posted: - quote - > I finally took a loss with a penny stock that I
You will find that, as the Schedule D reporting of capital> held over the last 7 years. So here is my > "hypothetical" situation: > I will have a 30K long term capital LOSS > showing on my 2007 return > I will have a 10K short term capital GAIN > showing on my 2007 return > Will the -30K + 10K =3D to -20K cary over for > next year? > Or is it not possible to offset any long term > LOSS towards any short term GAIN? gains is worked through, there comes a point where you are directed to _combine_ the results of the short- and long-term sections. That _combining_ will result in your long-term loss offsetting the smaller, short-term gain. The remaining long-term loss will be carried forward (and you should take care to make special note, so it is "remembered" when the next year's return is prepared). As the long-term loss carryover is worked down -- with at least $3,000 useable each year, even against ordinary income -- it may offset either/or short- and long-term gains. If, however, at some point the loss carryover is _less_ than either the long-term or the combined short- and long-term gains, then it will be used _first_ to reduce the long-term gain. Therefore, similar tax-advantaged income is the first offset. Bill << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| I finally took a loss with a penny stock that I held over the last 7 years. So here is my "hypothetical" situation: I will have a 30K long term capital LOSS showing on my 2007 return I will have a 10K short term capital GAIN showing on my 2007 return Will the -30K + 10K = to -20K cary over for next year? Or is it not possible to offset any long term LOSS towards any short term GAIN? Thanks for the feedback... << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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