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| Thanks everyone "Benjamin Yazersky CPA" <johndoe[at]nowhere.com> wrote: - quote - > "tex shalter" <anon[at]invalid.com> wrote:
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> > Do they have to file . . . > > I gave my two sons stocks for Christmas last year. Should > > they trade their stocks for a different company and earn a > > capital gain, will they have to file. The capital gains will > > be well under $ 2,000. Is there a limit before you have to > > file ? > > > Both have worked during summers mostly and received W2s from > > employers but haven't filed returns. > Take a look at the IRS 1040 instructions for who must file a > tax return. Also look at your state's instructions for the > same thing. > Even though there may not be a filing requirement, it still > may be advisable to file a tax return. If the kids had a > job, there may be tax withheld on the W2, any you'll have to > file a tax return to get it refunded, even if there is no > tax liability. The broker who handled the stock sale has to > issue a 1099b-and the IRS matches those to social security > numbers. Therefore, I'd advise to file a tax return, even > though you may not technically be required to. It should > avoid unnecessary correspondence and in the long run could > wind up being the more cost effective choice. |
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| "tex shalter" <anon[at]invalid.com> wrote: - quote - > Do they have to file . . .
Take a look at the IRS 1040 instructions for who must file a> I gave my two sons stocks for Christmas last year. Should > they trade their stocks for a different company and earn a > capital gain, will they have to file. The capital gains will > be well under $ 2,000. Is there a limit before you have to > file ? > Both have worked during summers mostly and received W2s from > employers but haven't filed returns. tax return. Also look at your state's instructions for the same thing. Even though there may not be a filing requirement, it still may be advisable to file a tax return. If the kids had a job, there may be tax withheld on the W2, any you'll have to file a tax return to get it refunded, even if there is no tax liability. The broker who handled the stock sale has to issue a 1099b-and the IRS matches those to social security numbers. Therefore, I'd advise to file a tax return, even though you may not technically be required to. It should avoid unnecessary correspondence and in the long run could wind up being the more cost effective choice. ___________________________________ <<< Benjamin Yazersky, CPA [NJ & NY] > > -----> real address on hobokeni or hobokenx <----- << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "tex shalter" <a...[at]invalid.com> wrote: - quote - > Do they have to file . . .
The key is not the amount of the capital gain but the amount> I gave my two sons stocks for Christmas last year. Should > they trade their stocks for a different company and earn a > capital gain, will they have to file. The capital gains will > be well under $ 2,000. Is there a limit before you have to > file ? > Both have worked during summers mostly and received W2s from > employers but haven't filed returns. of the gross proceeds, as that is the number that is reported to the IRS. If their W-2 income plus the amount of the gross proceeds from the stock sale is above the threshold for filing, then they will have to file. For a single dependent, the threshold is somewhere between $800 and $4750, depending on the amount of the unearned income (stock sale). << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "tex shalter" <anon[at]invalid.com> wrote - quote - > Do they have to file . . .
If their income is more than $850 then they need to file.> I gave my two sons stocks for Christmas last year. Should > they trade their stocks for a different company and earn a > capital gain, will they have to file. The capital gains will > be well under $ 2,000. Is there a limit before you have to > file ? Here's the kicker - the IRS will only know they sold stock at the gross amount. They have no clue as to the resulting gain or loss, and may in fact, declare the whole gross sales amount as gain unless and until you tell them by filing a return reporting the sale on Schedule D. - quote - > Both have worked during summers mostly and received W2s from
Even if their total income was less than the filing limit,> employers but haven't filed returns. they may want to file to get a refund of any federal / state tax that was withheld. Make them do it by hand if they are in need of being punished. -- Paul A. Thomas, CPA Athens, Georgia << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "tex shalter" <a...[at]invalid.com> wrote: - quote - > Do they have to file . . .
Since they have both earned (W-2) and unearned (1099-B,> I gave my two sons stocks for Christmas last year. Should > they trade their stocks for a different company and earn a > capital gain, will they have to file. The capital gains will > be well under $ 2,000. Is there a limit before you have to > file ? > Both have worked during summers mostly and received W2s from > employers but haven't filed returns. 1099-DIV) income, they need to file (and pay tax) if the unearned income exceeds $250. << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "tex shalter" <anon[at]invalid.com> wrote: - quote - > Do they have to file . . .
Yes. Assuming that they are your dependents, unearned> I gave my two sons stocks for Christmas last year. Should > they trade their stocks for a different company and earn a > capital gain, will they have to file. The capital gains will > be well under $ 2,000. Is there a limit before you have to > file ? income as little as $300 can trigger a filing requirement, though. See the 1040 instructions for details. Also remember that sale proceeds, not net gain, is what's reported to IRS. Without a return calculating the gain they will assume that it's all gain. - quote - > Both have worked during summers mostly and received W2s from
Have they claimed exemption from income tax withholding? If> employers but haven't filed returns. not, they may be due refunds which they won't get without filing. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Do they have to file . . . I gave my two sons stocks for Christmas last year. Should they trade their stocks for a different company and earn a capital gain, will they have to file. The capital gains will be well under $ 2,000. Is there a limit before you have to file ? Both have worked during summers mostly and received W2s from employers but haven't filed returns. Thanks << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2007) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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