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Old 08-18-2007, 06:07 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Default Re: LTC payments offset LTC expenses?

Vic Dura wrote:

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> I have a question regarding if Long Term Care (LTC)
> insurance payments received by a Tax Payer (TP) must be used
> to offset Schedule-A LTC medical expenses. I posed this
> question in another tax related group but would also like to
> get the opinions of the experts in this NG.
> A CPA I'm dealing with says that the LTC payments are
> neither reportable as income (per Form 8853) nor required to
> be used to offset medical expenses. I agree with the "not
> reportable as income" part but have doubts about the medical
> expenses offset part.
> The CPA is saying that the LTC payments of $100/day from the
> insurance company are like a disability insurance payout She
> says this because
> 1) the insurance payments are reported on a 1099-LTC
> 2) the payout would be $100/day regardless of the actual
> cost of the LTC. Even if the cost was less than $100/day
> (not likely) payout would still be the same. The only
> requirement is the that the insured be in a LTC facility.
> The CPA further posits that IRS regs do not say anywhere
> that LTC insurance *payments* (as opposed to
> *reimbursements*) must be used to offset LTC expenses.
> The premiums were paid with "before" tax dollars i.e. the
> premiums were listed in Sch-A as medical insurance expenses.
> However, since the policy began paying, payment of premiums
> was suspended and no longer are required.
> Does the CPA's position have any merit? It seems very
> aggressive to me so I would like to get a few more opinions
> on this.


Don't matter what you call the money, "reimbursements",
"payments", still it's coming in and reported on the form
and must be accounted for. Since deductions were taken
previously, it's income unless offset by actual expenses to
the LTC facility.

IOW, you don't get something for nothing. No such thing as
a free lunch.

ChEAr$,
Harlan

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Old 08-17-2007, 04:02 AM
Vic Dura
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Default LTC payments offset LTC expenses?

I have a question regarding if Long Term Care (LTC)
insurance payments received by a Tax Payer (TP) must be used
to offset Schedule-A LTC medical expenses. I posed this
question in another tax related group but would also like to
get the opinions of the experts in this NG.

A CPA I'm dealing with says that the LTC payments are
neither reportable as income (per Form 8853) nor required to
be used to offset medical expenses. I agree with the "not
reportable as income" part but have doubts about the medical
expenses offset part.

The CPA is saying that the LTC payments of $100/day from the
insurance company are like a disability insurance payout She
says this because

1) the insurance payments are reported on a 1099-LTC

2) the payout would be $100/day regardless of the actual
cost of the LTC. Even if the cost was less than $100/day
(not likely) payout would still be the same. The only
requirement is the that the insured be in a LTC facility.

The CPA further posits that IRS regs do not say anywhere
that LTC insurance *payments* (as opposed to
*reimbursements*) must be used to offset LTC expenses.

The premiums were paid with "before" tax dollars i.e. the
premiums were listed in Sch-A as medical insurance expenses.
However, since the policy began paying, payment of premiums
was suspended and no longer are required.

Does the CPA's position have any merit? It seems very
aggressive to me so I would like to get a few more opinions
on this.

Thanks for any comments.

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