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Old 08-03-2007, 07:54 AM
joetaxpayer
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Phil Marti wrote:
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> "joetaxpayer" <joetaxpayer[at]nospam.com> wrote:

> > You are not forced to use it for long term gains, however,
> > but you are permitted to do so. The choice is yours, and
> > depends on your tax bracket, and the rest of the numbers
> > involved.


> This is incorrect. A loss carried forward goes on Schedule
> D, where it's available for application against all capital
> gains. There is no choice involved.


I realized the mistake just as I hit 'send'. I was thinking
of 'investment interest'. TurboTax does not automatically
apply it to long term gains, offering to carry forward
instead of using against the LT gains. The user has a
choice, however. My bad on this one.

JOE

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Old 08-02-2007, 09:46 PM
Herb Smith
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<NoSuchPer...[at]bigfoot.com> wrote:
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> packat wrote:

> > Question - Can I offset carry over investment lost with new
> > gains?
> > I sold stocks at big lost in tax year 2000. Base on the
> > 2006 tax return, I still have carry over lost around 50K.
> > If I make some profit this year, say 20K. Can I offset this
> > 20K from the carry over lost?
> > If not, is there anythign I can do to make the best of this
> > carry over ? And does carry over lost have any time limit,
> > or it will carry over indefinitely until it is used up?


> Of course. You can deduct capital losses up to $3,000 per
> year against ordinary income. If you have $50k of carryover
> losses left, and you have capital gains of $20k, you can
> take that $20k against the $50k of carryover losses, and
> carry the remaining $30k forward.


Actually, the net carryover loss will be $27k. ($50k - $20k
- $3k) = $27k

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Old 08-02-2007, 09:46 PM
Phil Marti
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"joetaxpayer" <joetaxpayer[at]nospam.com> wrote:

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> You are not forced to use it for long term gains, however,
> but you are permitted to do so. The choice is yours, and
> depends on your tax bracket, and the rest of the numbers
> involved.


This is incorrect. A loss carried forward goes on Schedule
D, where it's available for application against all capital
gains. There is no choice involved.

--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 08-01-2007, 08:26 PM
Paul Thomas, CPA
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"packat" <cpeters5[at]gmail.com> wrote

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> Question - Can I offset carry over investment lost with new
> gains?
> I sold stocks at big lost in tax year 2000. Base on the
> 2006 tax return, I still have carry over lost around 50K.
> If I make some profit this year, say 20K. Can I offset this
> 20K from the carry over lost?


Yes.

Capital losses being carried forward off-set current year's
capital gains, and up-to $3000 of the remaining loss gets
deducted against other income.

- quote -

> And does carry over lost have any time limit,
> or it will carry over indefinitely until it is used up?


Till it's gone or you are.......which ever comes first.

--
Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

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Old 08-01-2007, 08:26 PM
rlsusenet@NOSPAMPUHLEEZschnapp.org
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packat wrote:

- quote -

> Question - Can I offset carry over investment lost with new
> gains?
> I sold stocks at big lost in tax year 2000. Base on the
> 2006 tax return, I still have carry over lost around 50K.
> If I make some profit this year, say 20K. Can I offset this
> 20K from the carry over lost?
> If not, is there anythign I can do to make the best of this
> carry over ? And does carry over lost have any time limit,
> or it will carry over indefinitely until it is used up?


Of course. You can deduct capital losses up to $3,000 per
year against ordinary income. If you have $50k of carryover
losses left, and you have capital gains of $20k, you can
take that $20k against the $50k of carryover losses, and
carry the remaining $30k forward.

Now, what worries me is that you said "profit". If that
profit isn't capital gain, then you can only knock off
another $3k, and carry forward $47k to the next tax year.

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Old 08-01-2007, 08:26 PM
Benjamin Yazersky CPA
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"packat" <cpeters5[at]gmail.com> wrote:

- quote -

> Question - Can I offset carry over investment lost with new
> gains?
> I sold stocks at big lost in tax year 2000. Base on the
> 2006 tax return, I still have carry over lost around 50K.
> If I make some profit this year, say 20K. Can I offset this
> 20K from the carry over lost?
> If not, is there anythign I can do to make the best of this
> carry over ? And does carry over lost have any time limit,
> or it will carry over indefinitely until it is used up?


A capital loss carryover is available until used up or you
die. But be careful - some states don't allow capital loss
carryovers.

___________________________________
<<< Benjamin Yazersky, CPA [NJ & NY] > > -----> real address on hobokeni or hobokenx <-----

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Old 08-01-2007, 08:26 PM
Arthur Kamlet
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packat <cpeters5[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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> Question - Can I offset carry over investment lost with new
> gains?


yes.

Your schedule D is where your gains are reported, and
you can offset invetsment gains with your capital
loss carryover for the amount of the net gains
plus 3000.

- quote -

> I sold stocks at big lost in tax year 2000. Base on the
> 2006 tax return, I still have carry over lost around 50K.


And every year you carry-over some portion of that loss.

- quote -

> If I make some profit this year, say 20K. Can I offset this
> 20K from the carry over lost?


yes

- quote -

> If not, is there anythign I can do to make the best of this
> carry over ? And does carry over lost have any time limit,
> or it will carry over indefinitely until it is used up?


The loss does not expire until you do.

--
ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH

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Old 08-01-2007, 08:26 PM
ed
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packat <cpete...[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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> Question - Can I offset carry over investment lost with new
> gains?
> I sold stocks at big lost in tax year 2000. Base on the
> 2006 tax return, I still have carry over lost around 50K.
> If I make some profit this year, say 20K. Can I offset this
> 20K from the carry over lost?
> If not, is there anythign I can do to make the best of this
> carry over ? And does carry over lost have any time limit,
> or it will carry over indefinitely until it is used up?


You MUST offset all current long term and short term losses
against your caryover and then what's left can be deducted
(up to $3,000) and the remainder carrys over to next year.

ed

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Old 08-01-2007, 08:26 PM
joetaxpayer
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Default Re: investment gains / lost

packat wrote:

- quote -

> Question - Can I offset carry over investment lost with new
> gains?
> I sold stocks at big lost in tax year 2000. Base on the
> 2006 tax return, I still have carry over lost around 50K.
> If I make some profit this year, say 20K. Can I offset this
> 20K from the carry over lost?
> If not, is there anythign I can do to make the best of this
> carry over ? And does carry over lost have any time limit,
> or it will carry over indefinitely until it is used up?


Yes, the loss carries each year until used up. It is used to
offset short term losses, and up to $3,000 of earned income.
You are not forced to use it for long term gains, however,
but you are permitted to do so. The choice is yours, and
depends on your tax bracket, and the rest of the numbers
involved.

JOE

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Old 08-01-2007, 08:26 PM
Herb Smith
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packat <cpete...[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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> Question - Can I offset carry over investment lost with new
> gains?


The word is LOSS.
Yes, carryover losses can be used to offset current gains,
as well as up to $3000 of ordinary income.

- quote -

> I sold stocks at big lost in tax year 2000. Base on the
> 2006 tax return, I still have carry over lost around 50K.
> If I make some profit this year, say 20K. Can I offset this
> 20K from the carry over lost?


Yes, as explained in your Schedule D instructions.

- quote -

> If not, is there anythign I can do to make the best of this
> carry over ? And does carry over lost have any time limit,
> or it will carry over indefinitely until it is used up?


Capital loss carryover has NO time limit (except your life)
for use. If you have no capital gains to offset it, up to
$3000 can be used in any year to offset ordinary income.

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Old 08-01-2007, 08:26 PM
Phil Marti
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"packat" <cpeters5[at]gmail.com> wrote:

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> Question - Can I offset carry over investment lost with new
> gains?


Yes. Each year your loss carryover goes on Schedule D of
the 1040, where it's netted with this year's transactions.

--
Phil Marti
Clarksburg, MD

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Old 07-31-2007, 07:37 PM
packat
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Default investment gains / lost

Question - Can I offset carry over investment lost with new
gains?

I sold stocks at big lost in tax year 2000. Base on the
2006 tax return, I still have carry over lost around 50K.

If I make some profit this year, say 20K. Can I offset this
20K from the carry over lost?

If not, is there anythign I can do to make the best of this
carry over ? And does carry over lost have any time limit,
or it will carry over indefinitely until it is used up?

Thanks,
pcakat.

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