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| l3vi <ad...[at]madfrogproductions.com> wrote: - quote - > The 2nd lot is next to our 1st home, so after some research
You can deduct expenses (such as mortgage interest) for the> we found since the lot is next to our first home lot, then > we can slide that lot under an extension of types of our 1st > home and write off the property. However, before we got the > lot we did buy the 2nd home in SC, and as of this year we > are renting it all year around. I have spent some more time > on the phone with our CPA, and since we rent it out we have > no deductions because the property does not have any gains, > and we are only able to take losses on the property if it > gains positive revenue, however we can not take the money > that we pay in interest to the property unless we plan to > kick the renters out, which is less of a write off then > renting it, however I have to find a way to convert it into > a positive cash flow, but all that seams a bit of BS to me, > because as of this point it sounds like I will not get > anything out of paying the mortgage with or without renters, > and it makes it sound liking buying 1, 2, or more properties > to help convert my investing, will not curve the IRS 47% > chunk they took out of our income last year, and looks like > they will do this year. > We are looking for a new CPA, but we need one that knows > ebiz, and is in Virginia. It's a slow process to find a CPA > that does not just run the numbers, but gets out and looks > at your biz model and tells you how you should setup your > biz and life to reduces taxes. second house on your Schedule E, not on your Schedule A. If your expenses exceed the rental income AND you meet the criteria for active involvement in the rental property, you may be able to take a loss on the rental property. However, if your income is too high, you can only use expenses to offset rental income, and your CPA was essentially correct. << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Stuart Bronstein <spamt...[at]lexregia.com> wrote: - quote - > First of all, OP called it a second "home" not a rental
I guess there is a first time for everything. :-)> property. That's not definitive, but I've seldom if ever > heard people call a property a home if it's a rental. - quote - > But if that were the reason, the CPA should have explained
I'm under the impression that the CPA did explain it> it. That's not a hard concept to understand. properly. But, it probably wasn't the answer that the poster wanted to hear. - quote - > But in addition to that, the passive loss rules don't apply
Of course, that limit is phased out as AGI increases over> (up to a limit) to rental real estate of the owner "actively > participates" in its management. $100,000 which I assume is the case here. - quote - > I suppose there is a small chance the CPA is right. But if
It sounds to me like the CPA and the poster don't> he is and either wouldn't or couldn't explain it so the OP > could understand it, he needs a new CPA anyway. communicate well with each other, but I'll withhold judgment as to whether one side is more to blame than the other. :-) MTW << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| MTW <mtwingcpa[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > L K Williams <la...[at]loxinfo.co.th> wrote:
First of all, OP called it a second "home" not a rental> > Whoa!! Hold on! What's wrong with the CPA's advice? If > > you read the OP statement carefully, you will see that this > > house may not the second home but the third! OP is already > > deducting interest on two properties. We need more facts to > > be able to tell what is going on here but the position of > > the CPA is not, on the surface, outrageous. > I'm under the impression that the so-called "2nd home" is > actually a rental property and the CPA advised the poster on > the implications of the passive loss rules. property. That's not definitive, but I've seldom if ever heard people call a property a home if it's a rental. But if that were the reason, the CPA should have explained it. That's not a hard concept to understand. But in addition to that, the passive loss rules don't apply (up to a limit) to rental real estate of the owner "actively participates" in its management. I suppose there is a small chance the CPA is right. But if he is and either wouldn't or couldn't explain it so the OP could understand it, he needs a new CPA anyway. Stu << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| The 2nd lot is next to our 1st home, so after some research we found since the lot is next to our first home lot, then we can slide that lot under an extension of types of our 1st home and write off the property. However, before we got the lot we did buy the 2nd home in SC, and as of this year we are renting it all year around. I have spent some more time on the phone with our CPA, and since we rent it out we have no deductions because the property does not have any gains, and we are only able to take losses on the property if it gains positive revenue, however we can not take the money that we pay in interest to the property unless we plan to kick the renters out, which is less of a write off then renting it, however I have to find a way to convert it into a positive cash flow, but all that seams a bit of BS to me, because as of this point it sounds like I will not get anything out of paying the mortgage with or without renters, and it makes it sound liking buying 1, 2, or more properties to help convert my investing, will not curve the IRS 47% chunk they took out of our income last year, and looks like they will do this year. We are looking for a new CPA, but we need one that knows ebiz, and is in Virginia. It's a slow process to find a CPA that does not just run the numbers, but gets out and looks at your biz model and tells you how you should setup your biz and life to reduces taxes. Thanks, Levi << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| - quote - > > > I find this odd, especially when I can write-off my first
I'd consider the (empty?) lot next to the first home as part> > > home, as well as the other lot that I own next to our first > > > home lot (that lot was acquired after the 2nd home), however > > > my 2nd home can not be applied to my income to help reduce > > > taxes which is why I bought it in the first place. > Whoa!! Hold on! What's wrong with the CPA's advice? If > you read the OP statement carefully, you will see that this > house may not the second home but the third! of that home's property. Even if not, it isn't a "second home". Seth << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| L K Williams wrote: - quote - > Bob" <bobinsfo[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
The third? he said the SC house was the 2nd home (personal> > "l3vi" <admin[at]madfrogproductions.com> wrote: > > > We live in VA, however have a 2nd home in SC. Our CPA will > > > not allow us to deduct the interest paid on the home in SC > > > agents our personal income in the area of federal taxes. > > > > > He tells us that we can only apply it to the home itself, > > > and acquire the deductions when we sell it. > > > > > I find this odd, especially when I can write-off my first > > > home, as well as the other lot that I own next to our first > > > home lot (that lot was acquired after the 2nd home), however > > > my 2nd home can not be applied to my income to help reduce > > > taxes which is why I bought it in the first place. > > > > > We have this feeling that our CPA is wrong, because we have > > > found things in the past that we could write-off and he did > > > not know about it or something. > > Can CPAs be sued for malpractice? Run, don't walk, away > > from this idiot and find a tax accountant who knows what > > he/she is talking about! > Whoa!! Hold on! What's wrong with the CPA's advice? If > you read the OP statement carefully, you will see that this > house may not the second home but the third! OP is already > deducting interest on two properties. We need more facts to > be able to tell what is going on here but the position of > the CPA is not, on the surface, outrageous. residence), and I see why, since he's paying interest also on a lot next door to his primary residence. It would appear that that lot does not have a house on it and has been amalgamated with the land on which the primary sets. However if that lot is not part and parcel at this time of the primary lot and home, it might be investment property, right? ChEAr$, Harlan << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| L K Williams <la...[at]loxinfo.co.th> wrote: - quote - > Whoa!! Hold on! What's wrong with the CPA's advice? If
I'll second that! :-)> you read the OP statement carefully, you will see that this > house may not the second home but the third! OP is already > deducting interest on two properties. We need more facts to > be able to tell what is going on here but the position of > the CPA is not, on the surface, outrageous. I'm under the impression that the so-called "2nd home" is actually a rental property and the CPA advised the poster on the implications of the passive loss rules. MTW << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| l3vi <ad...[at]madfrogproductions.com> wrote: - quote - > We live in VA, however have a 2nd home in SC. Our CPA will
If it is your only second home mortgage interest is> not allow us to deduct the interest paid on the home in SC > agents our personal income in the area of federal taxes. deductible on Schedule A (subject to the $1,000,000 acquisition indebtedness and $100,000 equity indebtedness limits). If this is your 3rd (or greater home) there is no additional Schedule A deduction for interest and there is no option of adding the interest paid to your basis. - quote - > He tells us that we can only apply it to the home itself,
For every $100 you pay in mortgage interest you save a max> and acquire the deductions when we sell it. > I find this odd, especially when I can write-off my first > home, as well as the other lot that I own next to our first > home lot(that lot was acquired after the 2nd home), however > my 2nd home can not be applied to my income to help reduce > taxes which is why I bought it in the first place. of $35 in federal income taxes. If that was your only reason for purchasing the property then you are losing money. - quote - > We have this feeling that our CPA is wrong, because we have
How many times will you allow him to be wrong before you> found things in the past that we could write-off and he did > not know about it or something. find another tax preparer? << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Bob" <bobinsfo[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > "l3vi" <admin[at]madfrogproductions.com> wrote:
Whoa!! Hold on! What's wrong with the CPA's advice? If> > We live in VA, however have a 2nd home in SC. Our CPA will > > not allow us to deduct the interest paid on the home in SC > > agents our personal income in the area of federal taxes. > > > He tells us that we can only apply it to the home itself, > > and acquire the deductions when we sell it. > > > I find this odd, especially when I can write-off my first > > home, as well as the other lot that I own next to our first > > home lot (that lot was acquired after the 2nd home), however > > my 2nd home can not be applied to my income to help reduce > > taxes which is why I bought it in the first place. > > > We have this feeling that our CPA is wrong, because we have > > found things in the past that we could write-off and he did > > not know about it or something. > Can CPAs be sued for malpractice? Run, don't walk, away > from this idiot and find a tax accountant who knows what > he/she is talking about! you read the OP statement carefully, you will see that this house may not the second home but the third! OP is already deducting interest on two properties. We need more facts to be able to tell what is going on here but the position of the CPA is not, on the surface, outrageous. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "l3vi" <admin[at]madfrogproductions.com> wrote: - quote - > We live in VA, however have a 2nd home in SC. Our CPA will
Can CPAs be sued for malpractice? Run, don't walk, away> not allow us to deduct the interest paid on the home in SC > agents our personal income in the area of federal taxes. > He tells us that we can only apply it to the home itself, > and acquire the deductions when we sell it. > I find this odd, especially when I can write-off my first > home, as well as the other lot that I own next to our first > home lot(that lot was acquired after the 2nd home), however > my 2nd home can not be applied to my income to help reduce > taxes which is why I bought it in the first place. > We have this feeling that our CPA is wrong, because we have > found things in the past that we could write-off and he did > not know about it or something. from this idiot and find a tax accountant who knows what he/she is talking about! << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| We live in VA, however have a 2nd home in SC. Our CPA will not allow us to deduct the interest paid on the home in SC agents our personal income in the area of federal taxes. He tells us that we can only apply it to the home itself, and acquire the deductions when we sell it. I find this odd, especially when I can write-off my first home, as well as the other lot that I own next to our first home lot(that lot was acquired after the 2nd home), however my 2nd home can not be applied to my income to help reduce taxes which is why I bought it in the first place. We have this feeling that our CPA is wrong, because we have found things in the past that we could write-off and he did not know about it or something. Thanks for any help into this! << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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