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| Dick Adams <rdad...[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > My youngest, Joshua the Mercenary, is now 16, has a part-time
1. Maximum contributions to a Roth are the same as a> job. He is already cursing the IRS. With a smile on my face, > I told him it is Congress, not the IRS, with whom he should > be upset and to remember that when he votes. > I want to explain the Roth IRA to him. However, I am not > clear on the details: > - Max contributions > - penalty for early withdrawals > - exceptions to the penalty traditional IRA: the lesser of your earned income or $4,000 ($5,000 if you are over 50.) If you earn too much, though, you are prohibited from contributing to a Roth ($110,000 for single, $160,000 for MFJ) 2. There is no penalty for early withdrawal of contributions. When you take money out of a Roth, your contribution is considered to be withdrawn first. So if you contributed $10,000 to the Roth over several years and it is now worth $12,000, you can take out the $10,000 without penalty. Anything more than that will incur a 10% penalty. So if you took out the entire $12,000, you would have a $200 penalty (plus have to pay tax on the $2,000). 3. Exceptions to the penalty are listed on Form 5329. The common ones include first time home buyer (up to $10,000), qualified higher education expenses (tuition, fees, books, room & board), medical expenses that exceed 7.5% of your AGI. So there won't be a penalty on the withdrawal of any earnings, but you will still have to pay tax on the withdrawal if you are under the age of 59-1/2 (except for the first-time home buyer. If the account has been open for at least 5 years, then the withdrawal of earnings is tax-free also.) As with many tax questions, the answer is not always easy! << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> writes: - quote - > I want to explain the Roth IRA to him. However, I am not
$4000 hard cap, but can't contribute more than your earned> clear on the details: > - Max contributions income (though the contribution funds themselves can come from savings, gifts, etc.). - quote - > - penalty for early withdrawals
No penalty or tax for withdrawing contributions.Withdrawals of earnings are taxable plus get hit with the 10% penalty. Note that unlike a trad IRA, withdrawals are deemed to come from contributions first, then earnings. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > My youngest, Joshua the Mercenary, is now 16, has a part-time www.rothira.com> job. He is already cursing the IRS. With a smile on my face, > I told him it is Congress, not the IRS, with whom he should > be upset and to remember that when he votes. > I want to explain the Roth IRA to him. However, I am not > clear on the details: > - Max contributions > - penalty for early withdrawals > - excemptions to the penalty -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Dick Adams wrote: - quote - > My youngest, Joshua the Mercenary, is now 16, has a part-time
Everything you need to know about Roth IRAs from Kaye Thomas:> job. He is already cursing the IRS. With a smile on my face, > I told him it is Congress, not the IRS, with whom he should > be upset and to remember that when he votes. > I want to explain the Roth IRA to him. However, I am not > clear on the details: > - Max contributions > - penalty for early withdrawals > - excemptions to the penalty http://www.fairmark.com/rothira/index.htm << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Dick Adams wrote: - quote - > My youngest, Joshua the Mercenary, is now 16, has a part-time
$4K (because he is not 50) He can withdraw his deposit> job. He is already cursing the IRS. With a smile on my face, > I told him it is Congress, not the IRS, with whom he should > be upset and to remember that when he votes. > I want to explain the Roth IRA to him. However, I am not > clear on the details: > - Max contributions > - penalty for early withdrawals > - exeptions to the penalty without penalty, but earnings would be taxed and 10% penalty if he's under 59-1/2 More important, teach him the 'rule of 72'. At 10%, money doubles in 7 years. From now till 66, this money can potentially double 7 times. 2^7 is 128. His $4000 can grow to over $500,000. Ok, this ignores inflation. It may 'only' be worth $128K. Tell him if he puts the $4000 away each year for 8 years, he will be ahead of the friend who starts at 24 and puts away $4000 every year for the rest of his life. JOE << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| rdadams[at]smart.net (Dick=A0Adams) posted: - quote - > My youngest, Joshua the Mercenary, is now
Currently $4,000 ($5,000 if age 50 or older). Of course,> 16, has a part-time job. He is already cursing > the IRS. With a smile on my face, I told him it > is Congress, not the IRS, with whom he > should be upset and to remember that when > he votes. > I want to explain the Roth IRA to him. > However, I am not clear on the details: > - Max contributions emphasize they are _not_ deductible. The payoff comes much later -- 43+ years, in his case; but WOW, think of the compounding! - quote - > - penalty for early withdrawals
The 10% additional tax applies to "unqualified"distributions (e.g., excess contributions, early distributions, etc.) - quote - > - excemptions to the penalty
Most important exception is distributions that are a returnof your regular contributions -- which are not includable "in your gross income." There are other exceptions for a first-time homebuyer up to $10,000 (lifetime limit) ... or for distributions because you are disabled ... or in payments to a beneficiary after one's death (like he'd care about that). The major benefit of a Roth, of course, is that all _Qualified Distributions_ are not taxable -- and the major qualifier is the Roth has been open for 5 years, and the TP is age 59 1/2. Smart son. Pub 590 might be excellent bedtime reading -- good sleeping aid. Bill << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| In article <f47618$phb$1[at]panix2.panix.com> , Dick Adams <rdadams[at]smart.net> wrote: - quote - > My youngest, Joshua the Mercenary, is now 16, has a part-time
Kaye Thomas wrote a very easy to read and pretty complete> job. He is already cursing the IRS. With a smile on my face, > I told him it is Congress, not the IRS, with whom he should > be upset and to remember that when he votes. > I want to explain the Roth IRA to him. However, I am not > clear on the details: > - Max contributions > - penalty for early withdrawals > - excemptions to the penalty tutorial. Click here http://fairmark.com/rothira/index.htm and then start with the Roth 101 link. -- ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| My youngest, Joshua the Mercenary, is now 16, has a part-time job. He is already cursing the IRS. With a smile on my face, I told him it is Congress, not the IRS, with whom he should be upset and to remember that when he votes. I want to explain the Roth IRA to him. However, I am not clear on the details: - Max contributions - penalty for early withdrawals - excemptions to the penalty Dick << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The above is intended for educational purposes only. > << It does NOT constitute legal OR professional advice. > << It cannot be used by any taxpayer, for the purpose of > << the purpose of avoiding penalties that may be imposed > << upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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