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| Mike C <f3pb8m$s7n$1[at]panix3.panix.com> wrote: - quote - > kam...[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote:
Since you already received a Notice from the IRS, I would> > Mike C <michaelj...[at]hotmail.com> wrote: > > > I got a notice from the IRS for 2005 for discrepancies on my > > > Schedule D. I looked at it and it turns out I had sold short > > > shares that were not covered until 2006 and therefore did > > > not need to be reported on my D (but were reported by my > > > brokerage on the 1099). > > > > > My question is is it a requirement to include a statement > > > explaining this or is it just smart to avoid getting the > > > letter (and hassle) later? I looked in Pub 550 and didn't > > > see anything stating this was a requirement (or even > > > suggesting to do it). > > Pub 550 used to be more exacting, and more helpful > > > The best I could find this year is a Pub 550 statement right > > in the middle of page 67 that says Emily reconciles the > > Schedule D Sales columns and makes sure they are not less > > than the reported amounts of the 1099Bs. > > > Then you can use your memory of what the Pub or the Schedule > > D instructions used to say, and attach a statement when the > > 1099Bs are more than the Sales Price columns. > > > But when you have short positions remaining open at year > > end, just say so right on the schedule D. > > > I do this by entering "Short position remaining open > > 12/31/06" on the line below the report of the short sale. > I guess what I am wondering is do I have to amend my 2005 > return or just let them know the difference was due to open > short positions? I notified them already but did not amend > my return. fill out a Corrected Schedule D (Mark Corrected and date in Red at top) and send a letter along with it and the notice itself, and explain in your letter that, as shown in the Corrected Sch D, the Excess of 1099-B amounts over Sch D Sales Columns was due to the short positions listed in the Corrected Sch D remaining open as of 12/31/06. In the future, Sch D should contain those short sales amounts along with a notation they remained open at year end. Do not file a Form 1040X since they are already examining your return and you are now explaining the difference. -- ArtKamlet at a o l dot c o m Columbus OH K2PZH << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| kam...[at]panix.com (Arthur Kamlet) wrote: - quote - > Mike C <michaelj...[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
I guess what I am wondering is do I have to amend my 2005> > I got a notice from the IRS for 2005 for discrepancies on my > > Schedule D. I looked at it and it turns out I had sold short > > shares that were not covered until 2006 and therefore did > > not need to be reported on my D (but were reported by my > > brokerage on the 1099). > > > My question is is it a requirement to include a statement > > explaining this or is it just smart to avoid getting the > > letter (and hassle) later? I looked in Pub 550 and didn't > > see anything stating this was a requirement (or even > > suggesting to do it). > Pub 550 used to be more exacting, and more helpful > The best I could find this year is a Pub 550 statement right > in the middle of page 67 that says Emily reconciles the > Schedule D Sales columns and makes sure they are not less > than the reported amounts of the 1099Bs. > Then you can use your memory of what the Pub or the Schedule > D instructions used to say, and attach a statement when the > 1099Bs are more than the Sales Price columns. > But when you have short positions remaining open at year > end, just say so right on the schedule D. > I do this by entering "Short position remaining open > 12/31/06" on the line below the report of the short sale. return or just let them know the difference was due to open short positions? I notified them already but did not amend my return. << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Mike C <michaelj...[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I got a notice from the IRS for 2005 for discrepancies on my
To make your total coorespond with the total of your 1099-Bs> Schedule D. I looked at it and it turns out I had sold short > shares that were not covered until 2006 and therefore did > not need to be reported on my D (but were reported by my > brokerage on the 1099). > My question is is it a requirement to include a statement > explaining this or is it just smart to avoid getting the > letter (and hassle) later? I looked in Pub 550 and didn't > see anything stating this was a requirement (or even > suggesting to do it). you must report all sales. If you didn't close them that year, report the purchase information (price, purchase date and profit) as "open short". ed << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Mike C wrote: - quote - > I got a notice from the IRS for 2005 for discrepancies on my
I viewed 550 as well. You are right, it's lacking. Given> Schedule D. I looked at it and it turns out I had sold short > shares that were not covered until 2006 and therefore did > not need to be reported on my D (but were reported by my > brokerage on the 1099). > My question is is it a requirement to include a statement > explaining this or is it just smart to avoid getting the > letter (and hassle) later? I looked in Pub 550 and didn't > see anything stating this was a requirement (or even > suggesting to do it). that a broker will report a short sale the same as a sale, that's what the IRS tries to reconcile. Purchases, i.e. cost, isn't really tracked by the broker (IRS wants to change this) but sales are. So a short sale that remains open through the end of the year needs to be reconciled, and noted on the return. JOE << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| Mike C <michaeljc70[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I got a notice from the IRS for 2005 for discrepancies on my
Pub 550 used to be more exacting, and more helpful> Schedule D. I looked at it and it turns out I had sold short > shares that were not covered until 2006 and therefore did > not need to be reported on my D (but were reported by my > brokerage on the 1099). > My question is is it a requirement to include a statement > explaining this or is it just smart to avoid getting the > letter (and hassle) later? I looked in Pub 550 and didn't > see anything stating this was a requirement (or even > suggesting to do it). The best I could find this year is a Pub 550 statement right in the middle of page 67 that says Emily reconciles the Schedule D Sales columns and makes sure they are not less than the reported amounts of the 1099Bs. Then you can use your memory of what the Pub or the Schedule D instructions used to say, and attach a statement when the 1099Bs are more than the Sales Price columns. But when you have short positions remaining open at year end, just say so right on the schedule D. I do this by entering "Short position remaining open 12/31/06" on the line below the report of the short sale. << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| I got a notice from the IRS for 2005 for discrepancies on my Schedule D. I looked at it and it turns out I had sold short shares that were not covered until 2006 and therefore did not need to be reported on my D (but were reported by my brokerage on the 1099). My question is is it a requirement to include a statement explaining this or is it just smart to avoid getting the letter (and hassle) later? I looked in Pub 550 and didn't see anything stating this was a requirement (or even suggesting to do it). << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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