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Old 05-11-2007, 03:54 AM
Katie
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Bob Sandler <bob_use...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

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> To which state do we (a company) owe sales or use tax in the
> following scenario? We buy a computer and have the seller
> ship it to our office in New Jersey. There we install some
> software on the computer. This takes a few days. Then we
> ship the computer to our office in Arizona, where we use it
> in our business.
> Does it make any difference what the specific states are?
> Would the answer be different if two other states were
> involved, or is there a general rule that will apply for all
> or most states? Some other likely combinations are New
> Jersey-Florida, Colorado-Nebraska, Colorado-Arizona, and
> Nebraska-Missouri.


I thought I had replied to this several days ago, but it
seems to have gotten lost in cyberspace ...

If the property is shipped from NJ by the vendor or a drop
shipper, NJ sales tax will apply to this transaction. AZ
will give you credit against the use tax for the sales tax
that was paid to NJ.

If the property is shipped from outside NJ but the vendor
has nexus with NJ, the vendor will probably routinely
collect and pay over NJ use tax on the transaction. Again,
AZ will give credit for the use tax that was paid to NJ.

If the property is shipped from outside NJ and the vendor
has no nexus with NJ, the use tax is the purchaser's
responsibility. Several respondents here have opined that
only AZ would be entitled to the use tax; however, I believe
that most states (including NJ) would probably consider the
installation of the software to be a taxable use of the
property. This is not the same thing as just re-routing the
property to the AZ location, or reselling it.

N.J.S.A. 54:32B-2(h) : "'Use' means the exercise of any
right or power over tangible personal property by the
purchaser thereof and includes, but is not limited to, the
receiving, storage or any keeping or retention for any
length of time, withdrawal from storage, any distribution,
any installation, any affixation to real or personal
property, or any consumption of such property." The
installation of software on a computer in NJ would appear to
meet this definition. It certainly is "the exercise of" a
"right or power" over the property.

As a result, I believe the transaction described would be
subject to NJ use tax. It is probably also subject to AZ
use tax, but AZ will allow credit for the NJ tax.

I would suggest that the same pattern applies with respect
to most pairs of states. However, there may be statutory,
regulatory, or case law exceptions in some states whereby
the installation of the software would not constitute a
taxable use.

Katie in San Diego

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Old 05-09-2007, 08:13 PM
Stuart A. Bronstein
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Bob Sandler <bob_usenet[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

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> > 2) In theory, it is an "end user sales and use tax", so only
> > the Arizona office should pay. In practice, the retailer
> > usually pays sales tax, and rarely collects for out of
> > state.


> We (the company) pay use tax to every state we operate in,
> so I'm not so much concerned about whether the seller
> collects the tax. In this case, though, the seller will want
> to collect NJ tax, so if it's really Arizona that should get
> the tax, we'll have to find a way to convince the seller.


You'd have to check the laws of both states. It may be that
you owe sales tax to NJ and use tax to Arizona - but you
should get a credit against the AZ tax for what was paid to
NJ.

Stu

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Old 05-08-2007, 05:11 AM
Bob Sandler
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Default Re: Sales/Use Tax to Which State?

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> 2) In theory, it is an "end user sales and use tax", so only
> the Arizona office should pay. In practice, the retailer
> usually pays sales tax, and rarely collects for out of
> state.


We (the company) pay use tax to every state we operate in,
so I'm not so much concerned about whether the seller
collects the tax. In this case, though, the seller will want
to collect NJ tax, so if it's really Arizona that should get
the tax, we'll have to find a way to convince the seller.

- quote -

> 3) There is an exemption for manufacturers or intermediary
> resellers (in this case NJ), so NJ wouldn't pay.


The NJ office is not reselling the computer - just sending
it to another location of the same company.

Bob Sandler

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Old 05-07-2007, 05:29 PM
davidkaifuku1@gmail.com
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Bob Sandler <bob_use...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:

- quote -

> To which state do we (a company) owe sales or use tax in the
> following scenario? We buy a computer and have the seller
> ship it to our office in New Jersey. There we install some
> software on the computer. This takes a few days. Then we
> ship the computer to our office in Arizona, where we use it
> in our business.
> Does it make any difference what the specific states are?
> Would the answer be different if two other states were
> involved, or is there a general rule that will apply for all
> or most states? Some other likely combinations are New
> Jersey-Florida, Colorado-Nebraska, Colorado-Arizona, and
> Nebraska-Missouri.


I am not especially a sales tax expert, BUT
1) The specific states can matter, but the general
principles are usually similar.

2) In theory, it is an "end user sales and use tax", so only
the Arizona office should pay. In practice, the retailer
usually pays sales tax, and rarely collects for out of
state.

3) There is an exemption for manufacturers or intermediary
resellers (in this case NJ), so NJ wouldn't pay.

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Old 05-07-2007, 05:29 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Bob Sandler wrote:

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> To which state do we (a company) owe sales or use tax in the
> following scenario? We buy a computer and have the seller
> ship it to our office in New Jersey. There we install some
> software on the computer. This takes a few days. Then we
> ship the computer to our office in Arizona, where we use it
> in our business.
> Does it make any difference what the specific states are?
> Would the answer be different if two other states were
> involved, or is there a general rule that will apply for all
> or most states? Some other likely combinations are New
> Jersey-Florida, Colorado-Nebraska, Colorado-Arizona, and
> Nebraska-Missouri.


I'll bet a dollar to a donut that if both states knew about
it, both would want use tax.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 05-07-2007, 05:29 PM
Paul Thomas, CPA
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Default Re: Sales/Use Tax to Which State?

"Bob Sandler" <bob_usenet[at]yahoo.com> wrote

- quote -

> To which state do we (a company) owe sales or use tax in the
> following scenario? We buy a computer and have the seller
> ship it to our office in New Jersey. There we install some
> software on the computer. This takes a few days. Then we
> ship the computer to our office in Arizona, where we use it
> in our business.
> Does it make any difference what the specific states are?


Arizona state tax laws apply to the cost of the finished
product "placed in service".

- quote -

> Would the answer be different if two other states were
> involved, or is there a general rule that will apply for all
> or most states? Some other likely combinations are New
> Jersey-Florida, Colorado-Nebraska, Colorado-Arizona, and
> Nebraska-Missouri.


No state applies sales tax to goods that just pass through
their state. The all apply the sales tax to goods used or
consumed in their state. That's the general rule then.
Look to the sales tax laws of the state in which you first
begin using the finished goods for your business purpose.

--
Paul A. Thomas, CPA
Athens, Georgia

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Old 05-05-2007, 10:36 AM
Bob Sandler
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Default Sales/Use Tax to Which State?

To which state do we (a company) owe sales or use tax in the
following scenario? We buy a computer and have the seller
ship it to our office in New Jersey. There we install some
software on the computer. This takes a few days. Then we
ship the computer to our office in Arizona, where we use it
in our business.

Does it make any difference what the specific states are?
Would the answer be different if two other states were
involved, or is there a general rule that will apply for all
or most states? Some other likely combinations are New
Jersey-Florida, Colorado-Nebraska, Colorado-Arizona, and
Nebraska-Missouri.

Thanks.

Bob Sandler

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