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| jmail7[at]andrewmitchel.com wrote: - quote - > Here is a quotation from the Tax Court case Frank v.
But aren't preparatory expenses capitalized and depreciated?> Commissioner, 20 T.C. 511 (1954): > "The travel expenses and legal fees spent in searching for a > newspaper business with a view to purchasing the same cannot > be deducted under the provisions of [the predecessor to > section 162]. The [taxpayers] were not engaged in any trade > or business at the time the expenses were incurred. The > trips made by the taxpayers from Phoenix, Arizona, were not > related to the conduct of the business that they were then > engaged in but were preparatory to locating a business > venture of their own. The expenses of investigating and > looking for a new business and trips preparatory to entering > a business are not deductible as an ordinary and necessary > business expense incurred in carrying on a trade or > business. Stu << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| "Howard" <how...[at]nospam.com> wrote: <<SNIP> - quote - > lodging and meals). He also said the IRS might disallow the
Your friend is wrong. There is no "might" about it. Such> all expenses if I did not buy or invest in a business while > there. expenses are not deductible if you don't buy or invest in a business. Also, it is Congress, through the Internal Revenue Code, that created this rule, not the IRS. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Here is a quotation from the Tax Court case Frank v. Commissioner, 20 T.C. 511 (1954): "The travel expenses and legal fees spent in searching for a newspaper business with a view to purchasing the same cannot be deducted under the provisions of [the predecessor to section 162]. The [taxpayers] were not engaged in any trade or business at the time the expenses were incurred. The trips made by the taxpayers from Phoenix, Arizona, were not related to the conduct of the business that they were then engaged in but were preparatory to locating a business venture of their own. The expenses of investigating and looking for a new business and trips preparatory to entering a business are not deductible as an ordinary and necessary business expense incurred in carrying on a trade or business. George C. Westervelt, 8 T. C. 1248. The word "pursuit" in the statutory phrase "in pursuit of a trade or business" is not used in the sense of "searching for" or "following after", but in the sense of "in connection with" or "in the course of" a trade or business. It presupposes an existing business with which petitioner is connected." << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Howard" <howard[at]nospam.com> wrote: - quote - > I expect to be there for most of the month of July and maybe
My guess is that none of your expenses to investigate work> longer looking at three businesses a week via brokers and > finding some on my own. Most of the details are in place. > My tax guy just got back to me and questioned the > deductibility of some expected expenses (a per-diem for > lodging and meals). He also said the IRS might disallow the > all expenses if I did not buy or invest in a business while > there. will be currently deductible. Instead they would be capitalized and written off after you actually get into business. If you are an artist or writer the answer might be different. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| My wife passed away in 2006 and our children have finished college. My house is up for sale and early retirement starts June 29th. I'd like run a business in a place that is warm year round and English is the primary language. My oldest son says Texas is the place to go, but I'd like to spend the next 10 years outside the U.S. My first job out of college required extensive foreign travel and I loved Brisbane, Australia. So I've decided to take a trip there in July. I expect to be there for most of the month of July and maybe longer looking at three businesses a week via brokers and finding some on my own. Most of the details are in place. My tax guy just got back to me and questioned the deductibility of some expected expenses (a per-diem for lodging and meals). He also said the IRS might disallow the all expenses if I did not buy or invest in a business while there. Opinions appreciated. Howard << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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