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Old 04-13-2007, 07:11 AM
Rich Carreiro
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"curious" <curious[at]no.spam.com> writes:

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> I worked for a company that gave stock options. At one
> point, I exercised 3667 options with a strike price of
> $0.30. At that point, the price of the company stock was
> $1.35, so the company said I also had to pay taxes on the
> paper profit. So I paid $1100.10 to exercise the options,
> and $1349.84 in taxes, for a total of $2449.94.


In other words, you paid tax on a paper gain
of 3667*($1.35 - $0.30) = $3850.35. Since
you paid tax on that gain, it becomes part
of your tax basis in the stock. So your basis
in the stock the $1100.10 you paid for it plus
the $3850.35 paper gain you paid tax on, for
a total basis of $4950.45. The amount of
tax paid is irrelevant and doesn't enter the
calcualtion.

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> Well the company ended up going out of business, so I need
> to claim a loss. The company CFO told us that we could
> claim the full value of the stock (based on its price at the
> time of exercise) as a loss. So in my case, I had 3667
> shares and they were worth $1.35 at the time of exercise, so
> that's $4950.45.


That's correct.

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> So do I claim $4950.45 as the loss, or do I claim $2449.94
> as the loss?


You claim $4950.45, since that was your
basis in the stock.

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Old 04-12-2007, 10:32 PM
Seth
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Default Re: How to claim stock loss?

curious <curious[at]no.spam.com> wrote:

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> I worked for a company that gave stock options. At one
> point, I exercised 3667 options with a strike price of
> $0.30. At that point, the price of the company stock was
> $1.35, so the company said I also had to pay taxes on the
> paper profit. So I paid $1100.10 to exercise the options,
> and $1349.84 in taxes, for a total of $2449.94.


The taxes were on $3850 (3667*$1.05) of income, right?

- quote -

> Well the company ended up going out of business, so I need
> to claim a loss. The company CFO told us that we could
> claim the full value of the stock (based on its price at the
> time of exercise) as a loss. So in my case, I had 3667
> shares and they were worth $1.35 at the time of exercise, so
> that's $4950.45. I'm not sure about this though, because I
> didn't pay that much. I only paid $2449.94.
> So do I claim $4950.45 as the loss, or do I claim $2449.94
> as the loss?


You paid $1100.10 to exercise, plus $3850 of your salary,
for a total of $4950.10.

Seth

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Old 04-12-2007, 10:32 PM
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Default Re: How to claim stock loss?

"curious" <curi...[at]no.spam.com> wrote:

- quote -

> I worked for a company that gave stock options. At one
> point, I exercised 3667 options with a strike price of
> $0.30. At that point, the price of the company stock was
> $1.35, so the company said I also had to pay taxes on the
> paper profit. So I paid $1100.10 to exercise the options,
> and $1349.84 in taxes, for a total of $2449.94.
> Well the company ended up going out of business, so I need
> to claim a loss. The company CFO told us that we could
> claim the full value of the stock (based on its price at the
> time of exercise) as a loss. So in my case, I had 3667
> shares and they were worth $1.35 at the time of exercise, so
> that's $4950.45. I'm not sure about this though, because I
> didn't pay that much. I only paid $2449.94.
> So do I claim $4950.45 as the loss, or do I claim $2449.94
> as the loss?


Claim the $4950.45, because if they did it right, they also
included an amount in box 1 of your W2 of the year you
exercised the options that was the difference between what
you paid and what the stock was worth.

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Old 04-12-2007, 04:06 AM
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Default How to claim stock loss?

I worked for a company that gave stock options. At one
point, I exercised 3667 options with a strike price of
$0.30. At that point, the price of the company stock was
$1.35, so the company said I also had to pay taxes on the
paper profit. So I paid $1100.10 to exercise the options,
and $1349.84 in taxes, for a total of $2449.94.

Well the company ended up going out of business, so I need
to claim a loss. The company CFO told us that we could
claim the full value of the stock (based on its price at the
time of exercise) as a loss. So in my case, I had 3667
shares and they were worth $1.35 at the time of exercise, so
that's $4950.45. I'm not sure about this though, because I
didn't pay that much. I only paid $2449.94.

So do I claim $4950.45 as the loss, or do I claim $2449.94
as the loss?

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