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| "curious" <curious[at]no.spam.com> writes: - quote - > I worked for a company that gave stock options. At one
In other words, you paid tax on a paper gain> point, I exercised 3667 options with a strike price of > $0.30. At that point, the price of the company stock was > $1.35, so the company said I also had to pay taxes on the > paper profit. So I paid $1100.10 to exercise the options, > and $1349.84 in taxes, for a total of $2449.94. of 3667*($1.35 - $0.30) = $3850.35. Since you paid tax on that gain, it becomes part of your tax basis in the stock. So your basis in the stock the $1100.10 you paid for it plus the $3850.35 paper gain you paid tax on, for a total basis of $4950.45. The amount of tax paid is irrelevant and doesn't enter the calcualtion. - quote - > Well the company ended up going out of business, so I need
That's correct.> to claim a loss. The company CFO told us that we could > claim the full value of the stock (based on its price at the > time of exercise) as a loss. So in my case, I had 3667 > shares and they were worth $1.35 at the time of exercise, so > that's $4950.45. - quote - > So do I claim $4950.45 as the loss, or do I claim $2449.94
You claim $4950.45, since that was your> as the loss? basis in the stock. -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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| curious <curious[at]no.spam.com> wrote: - quote - > I worked for a company that gave stock options. At one
The taxes were on $3850 (3667*$1.05) of income, right?> point, I exercised 3667 options with a strike price of > $0.30. At that point, the price of the company stock was > $1.35, so the company said I also had to pay taxes on the > paper profit. So I paid $1100.10 to exercise the options, > and $1349.84 in taxes, for a total of $2449.94. - quote - > Well the company ended up going out of business, so I need
You paid $1100.10 to exercise, plus $3850 of your salary,> to claim a loss. The company CFO told us that we could > claim the full value of the stock (based on its price at the > time of exercise) as a loss. So in my case, I had 3667 > shares and they were worth $1.35 at the time of exercise, so > that's $4950.45. I'm not sure about this though, because I > didn't pay that much. I only paid $2449.94. > So do I claim $4950.45 as the loss, or do I claim $2449.94 > as the loss? for a total of $4950.10. Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "curious" <curi...[at]no.spam.com> wrote: - quote - > I worked for a company that gave stock options. At one
Claim the $4950.45, because if they did it right, they also> point, I exercised 3667 options with a strike price of > $0.30. At that point, the price of the company stock was > $1.35, so the company said I also had to pay taxes on the > paper profit. So I paid $1100.10 to exercise the options, > and $1349.84 in taxes, for a total of $2449.94. > Well the company ended up going out of business, so I need > to claim a loss. The company CFO told us that we could > claim the full value of the stock (based on its price at the > time of exercise) as a loss. So in my case, I had 3667 > shares and they were worth $1.35 at the time of exercise, so > that's $4950.45. I'm not sure about this though, because I > didn't pay that much. I only paid $2449.94. > So do I claim $4950.45 as the loss, or do I claim $2449.94 > as the loss? included an amount in box 1 of your W2 of the year you exercised the options that was the difference between what you paid and what the stock was worth. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I worked for a company that gave stock options. At one point, I exercised 3667 options with a strike price of $0.30. At that point, the price of the company stock was $1.35, so the company said I also had to pay taxes on the paper profit. So I paid $1100.10 to exercise the options, and $1349.84 in taxes, for a total of $2449.94. Well the company ended up going out of business, so I need to claim a loss. The company CFO told us that we could claim the full value of the stock (based on its price at the time of exercise) as a loss. So in my case, I had 3667 shares and they were worth $1.35 at the time of exercise, so that's $4950.45. I'm not sure about this though, because I didn't pay that much. I only paid $2449.94. So do I claim $4950.45 as the loss, or do I claim $2449.94 as the loss? << ------------------------------------------------------- > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ------------------------------------------------------- > |
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