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| <privateuly[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > My wife and I (filing jointly) started an LLC (50-50
on the surface, the 2005 seems correct> members) in 2005. That year, the LLC had a loss of $7000. > In the same year, my wife had earned $5000 doing some > consulting work. > I am now reviewing the 2005 return that our (ex-) accountant > did, and I realized that in calculating the Self-Employment > tax, he had calculated as the income the $5000 consulting > income minus half of the loss from the LLC ($3500), giving > an income basis of $1500. In other words, he had ignored my > share of the LLC loss eventhough my wife and I filed > jointly. > Is this right? Should we have been entitled to deduct the > full amount of LLC loss which would give us 0 income basis > for the purpose of the self-employment tax calculation? se tax is on an individual, not both h&w ___________________________________ <<< Benjamin Yazersky, CPA [NJ & NY] > > -----> real address on hobokeni or hobokenx <----- << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| private...[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > My wife and I (filing jointly) started an LLC (50-50
Because you and your wife are 2 separate people with your> members) in 2005. That year, the LLC had a loss of $7000. > In the same year, my wife had earned $5000 doing some > consulting work. > I am now reviewing the 2005 return that our (ex-) accountant > did, and I realized that in calculating the Self-Employment > tax, he had calculated as the income the $5000 consulting > income minus half of the loss from the LLC ($3500), giving > an income basis of $1500. In other words, he had ignored my > share of the LLC loss eventhough my wife and I filed > jointly. > Is this right? Should we have been entitled to deduct the > full amount of LLC loss which would give us 0 income basis > for the purpose of the self-employment tax calculation? own individual Social Security accounts, wardrobes, favorite foods, etc., you get 2 separate Schedule SEs, one for each of you. Self employment tax is figured for each self separately and then added together on the joint tax return. Your ex-accountant did it right. He just didn't explain it to you, or did you ask him? Linda Dorfmont E.A., CFP, CSA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <privateuly[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > My wife and I (filing jointly) started an LLC (50-50
SE is person specific> members) in 2005. That year, the LLC had a loss of $7000. > In the same year, my wife had earned $5000 doing some > consulting work. > I am now reviewing the 2005 return that our (ex-) accountant > did, and I realized that in calculating the Self-Employment > tax, he had calculated as the income the $5000 consulting > income minus half of the loss from the LLC ($3500), giving > an income basis of $1500. In other words, he had ignored my > share of the LLC loss eventhough my wife and I filed > jointly. > Is this right? Should we have been entitled to deduct the > full amount of LLC loss which would give us 0 income basis > for the purpose of the self-employment tax calculation? he was right << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| privateuly[at]gmail.com wrote: - quote - > My wife and I (filing jointly) started an LLC (50-50
Yes, that is right, self-employment tax is never "joint",> members) in 2005. That year, the LLC had a loss of $7000. > In the same year, my wife had earned $5000 doing some > consulting work. > I am now reviewing the 2005 return that our (ex-) accountant > did, and I realized that in calculating the Self-Employment > tax, he had calculated as the income the $5000 consulting > income minus half of the loss from the LLC ($3500), giving > an income basis of $1500. In other words, he had ignored my > share of the LLC loss eventhough my wife and I filed > jointly. > Is this right? Should we have been entitled to deduct the > full amount of LLC loss which would give us 0 income basis > for the purpose of the self-employment tax calculation? even on a joint return (same for wage earners -- even if one reaches the max income for Soc Sec, the other is still taxable). You had no earned income from business activity subject to self-employment tax, however your spouse did. This would be more clear if done correctly: in a non-community property state, you and your wife would be considered partners and should be filing a partnership return, in a community property state you are each allowed to file your own Schedule(s) C if you jointly operate a business(es). Either way, the self-employment tax would be individually calculated for each of you. -Mark Bole << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > I am now reviewing the 2005 return that our (ex-) accountant
Yes.> did, and I realized that in calculating the Self-Employment > tax, he had calculated as the income the $5000 consulting > income minus half of the loss from the LLC ($3500), giving > an income basis of $1500. In other words, he had ignored my > share of the LLC loss eventhough my wife and I filed > jointly. > Is this right? - quote - > Should we have been entitled to deduct the full amount of
The full loss is deductible against your joint income for> LLC loss which would give us 0 income basis for the > purpose of the self-employment tax calculation? income tax purposes. For SE tax purposes, each respective spouse's loss is used to determine his and her net SE income for SE tax purposes. Frederick Lorca << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| My wife and I (filing jointly) started an LLC (50-50 members) in 2005. That year, the LLC had a loss of $7000. In the same year, my wife had earned $5000 doing some consulting work. I am now reviewing the 2005 return that our (ex-) accountant did, and I realized that in calculating the Self-Employment tax, he had calculated as the income the $5000 consulting income minus half of the loss from the LLC ($3500), giving an income basis of $1500. In other words, he had ignored my share of the LLC loss eventhough my wife and I filed jointly. Is this right? Should we have been entitled to deduct the full amount of LLC loss which would give us 0 income basis for the purpose of the self-employment tax calculation? Thanks in advance! Uly << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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