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Old 03-19-2007, 05:42 AM
chris
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Default Re: relocation income from my employer in box 1 ???

"Herb Smith" <smithf...[at]aol.com> wrote:
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> NYCgym...[at]gmail.com wrote:

> > I looked through a few of the previous posts, but I am still
> > stuck... my employer listed my relocation payments to a
> > third party as income on my W2 in box 1. There is nothing
> > listed in box 12 as mentioned in other posts. the money was
> > not grossed up - and its pushing me into a higher tax
> > bracket. Am I able to deduct this income as moving expenses?
> > I dont feel like this is pure income to me that I should pay
> > taxes on - I never saw this money, it was never actually
> > paid to me - I never even saw an invoice.
> > > Any help is appreciated. by the way, I moved over 1500

> > miles, so I pass the distance test if that matters.


> Your legitimate moving expenses are deductible on form 3903,
> as the payments your received from the employer were not
> reimbursements but treated as additional wages. See the
> instructions for the above form and Pub 521 for additional
> information on what moving expenses are deductible.


thank you to all who posted a reply to my question.
i really appreciate your feedback and advise. the responses
help point me in the right direction, and also allowed me to
calm down a bit as i was getting a little nervous on the tax
impact of all this. thanks again !!!

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Old 03-12-2007, 11:54 PM
Herb Smith
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Default Re: relocation income from my employer in box 1 ???

NYCgym...[at]gmail.com wrote:

- quote -

> I looked through a few of the previous posts, but I am still
> stuck... my employer listed my relocation payments to a
> third party as income on my W2 in box 1. There is nothing
> listed in box 12 as mentioned in other posts. the money was
> not grossed up - and its pushing me into a higher tax
> bracket. Am I able to deduct this income as moving expenses?
> I dont feel like this is pure income to me that I should pay
> taxes on - I never saw this money, it was never actually
> paid to me - I never even saw an invoice.
> Any help is appreciated. by the way, I moved over 1500
> miles, so I pass the distance test if that matters.


Your legitimate moving expenses are deductible on form 3903,
as the payments your received from the employer were not
reimbursements but treated as additional wages. See the
instructions for the above form and Pub 521 for additional
information on what moving expenses are deductible.

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Old 03-12-2007, 07:54 AM
GrandMarquis99
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Default Re: relocation income from my employer in box 1 ???

NYCgym...[at]gmail.com wrote:

- quote -

> I looked through a few of the previous posts, but I am still
> stuck... my employer listed my relocation payments to a
> third party as income on my W2 in box 1. There is nothing
> listed in box 12 as mentioned in other posts. the money was
> not grossed up - and its pushing me into a higher tax
> bracket. Am I able to deduct this income as moving expenses?
> I dont feel like this is pure income to me that I should pay
> taxes on - I never saw this money, it was never actually
> paid to me - I never even saw an invoice.
> Any help is appreciated. by the way, I moved over 1500
> miles, so I pass the distance test if that matters.


The more likely problem is that you were not reimbursed
under a so-called "accountable plan". Amounts paid under a
non-accountable plan are reported as wages on line 1 of Form
W-2. In such a case, all of the reimbursement is included
in your income, and you are left to determine which of your
moving expenses, if any, can be deducted. For more
information, see IRS Pub. 521, available online in html
format at:
http://www.irs.gov/publications/p521/

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Old 03-12-2007, 07:54 AM
BeanTownSteve
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Default Re: relocation income from my employer in box 1 ???

NYCgym...[at]gmail.com wrote:

- quote -

> I looked through a few of the previous posts, but I am still
> stuck... my employer listed my relocation payments to a
> third party as income on my W2 in box 1. There is nothing
> listed in box 12 as mentioned in other posts. the money was
> not grossed up - and its pushing me into a higher tax
> bracket. Am I able to deduct this income as moving expenses?
> I dont feel like this is pure income to me that I should pay
> taxes on - I never saw this money, it was never actually
> paid to me - I never even saw an invoice.


First, yes it's income. Second what's deductible
(potentially) are the amounts you or your employer on you
behalf, paid for move expenses that are allowable. Hope you
got receipts!

This would be a good year to have your taxes done by someone
competent.

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Old 03-12-2007, 07:54 AM
Paul Thomas, CPA
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Default Re: relocation income from my employer in box 1 ???

<NYCgymrat[at]gmail.com> wrote
- quote -

> I looked through a few of the previous posts, but I am still
> stuck... my employer listed my relocation payments to a
> third party as income on my W2 in box 1. There is nothing
> listed in box 12 as mentioned in other posts. the money was
> not grossed up - and its pushing me into a higher tax
> bracket. Am I able to deduct this income as moving expenses?


Maybe not all of it, but the allowable expenses that they
paid on your bahalf, as moving expenses.

- quote -

> I dont feel like this is pure income to me that I should pay
> taxes on - I never saw this money, it was never actually
> paid to me - I never even saw an invoice.


You should ask for the details of what was paid so you can
properly prepare your returns.

--
Paul Thomas, CPA
paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net

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Old 03-12-2007, 07:54 AM
brownie
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Default Re: relocation income from my employer in box 1 ???

NYCgym...[at]gmail.com wrote:

- quote -

> I looked through a few of the previous posts, but I am still
> stuck... my employer listed my relocation payments to a
> third party as income on my W2 in box 1. There is nothing
> listed in box 12 as mentioned in other posts. the money was
> not grossed up - and its pushing me into a higher tax
> bracket. Am I able to deduct this income as moving expenses?
> I dont feel like this is pure income to me that I should pay
> taxes on - I never saw this money, it was never actually
> paid to me - I never even saw an invoice.
> Any help is appreciated. by the way, I moved over 1500
> miles, so I pass the distance test if that matters.


Because your employer paid a portion of your moving expenses
under a non-accountable plan, the payments are included in
box 1 of your W-2.You need to file form 3903 and show all
deductible moving expenses (including the amount the
employer paid that would qualify as deductible moving
expenses if paid by you) and no reimbursements(because your
reimbursements are already included in your wages).

If your employer had been using an accountable plan, he
would have included all reimbursed deductible expenses in
box 12 of your w-2.

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Old 03-11-2007, 03:23 PM
NYCgymrat@gmail.com
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Default relocation income from my employer in box 1 ???

I looked through a few of the previous posts, but I am still
stuck... my employer listed my relocation payments to a
third party as income on my W2 in box 1. There is nothing
listed in box 12 as mentioned in other posts. the money was
not grossed up - and its pushing me into a higher tax
bracket. Am I able to deduct this income as moving expenses?
I dont feel like this is pure income to me that I should pay
taxes on - I never saw this money, it was never actually
paid to me - I never even saw an invoice.

Any help is appreciated. by the way, I moved over 1500
miles, so I pass the distance test if that matters.

thanks people !!!!

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