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| Mark X. Rigotti, CPA wrote: - quote - > If the child did not pay half his own support
True.> then even he can not claim his own exemption. - quote - > Therefore the
False. If the parents don't claim a dependency exemption> educational credits MUST stay with the parents. (because their income is high enough that their personal exemptions are entirely phased out, for instance), the child cannot claim an exemption for himself, but may claim the education credits. Phoebe ![]() << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Phil Marti" <prm20871[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > "Geoff" <Geoff[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
Except that If the child did not pay half his own support> > I can either claim my son as a dependent and get my credits, > > or not claim him as a dependent and he gets credits. > > > My income this year is pretty substantial; his is trivial. > Keep this point in mind. It's important. > > As I see it, if I claim him I get a State credit, but lose > > the federal credit because my income is too high. If I don't > > claim him he gets the federal credit but loses the state > > credit because his income is too low to get any benefit from > > it. > > > Is that seem likely. It is what TaxCut says, but TaxCut > > seems a little flakey this year. > I can't speak for TaxCut, but it sounds probable because of > the various Federal phaseouts. > > Second; I don't seem to get any benefit by taking him as a > > dependent other than the tuition credit. Do dependent > > benefits go to zero with income? > Yes. Personal exemptions are phased out above AGI just > under $113,000. Click on line 42 of the 1040 and you should > be able to open the worksheet where this calculation is > done. Personal exemptions also don't count in AMT. > The best way to decide is to total up the tax on all four > returns two ways: one with you claiming his exemption and > one with no one claiming his exemption. Then figure out > which way gives the least total tax for the two of you. then even he can not claim his own exemption. With the income level of the parents I will be willing to bet anyone that the child fails his own support test. Therefore the educational credits MUST stay with the parents. Regards, Mark Rigotti << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > If I don't claim him he gets the federal credit but loses
The NYS College Tuition Credit (Form IT-272) is a refundable> the state credit because his income is too low to get any > benefit from it. credit. -- Don EA in Upstate NY << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Geoff" <Geoff[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > I can either claim my son as a dependent and get my credits,
Keep this point in mind. It's important.> or not claim him as a dependent and he gets credits. > My income this year is pretty substantial; his is trivial. - quote - > As I see it, if I claim him I get a State credit, but lose
I can't speak for TaxCut, but it sounds probable because of> the federal credit because my income is too high. If I don't > claim him he gets the federal credit but loses the state > credit because his income is too low to get any benefit from > it. > Is that seem likely. It is what TaxCut says, but TaxCut > seems a little flakey this year. the various Federal phaseouts. - quote - > Second; I don't seem to get any benefit by taking him as a
Yes. Personal exemptions are phased out above AGI just> dependent other than the tuition credit. Do dependent > benefits go to zero with income? under $113,000. Click on line 42 of the 1040 and you should be able to open the worksheet where this calculation is done. Personal exemptions also don't count in AMT. The best way to decide is to total up the tax on all four returns two ways: one with you claiming his exemption and one with no one claiming his exemption. Then figure out which way gives the least total tax for the two of you. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I can either claim my son as a dependent and get my credits, or not claim him as a dependent and he gets credits. My income this year is pretty substantial; his is trivial. As I see it, if I claim him I get a State credit, but lose the federal credit because my income is too high. If I don't claim him he gets the federal credit but loses the state credit because his income is too low to get any benefit from it. Is that seem likely. It is what TaxCut says, but TaxCut seems a little flakey this year. Second; I don't seem to get any benefit by taking him as a dependent other than the tuition credit. Do dependent benefits go to zero with income? Thanks. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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