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| - quote - > > > > I am a bit confused by the dependent tax rules for 2006-on.
All of my income was in IL . Hers was in MO.> > > > My wife and I were married December 30, 2006. We would like > > > > to file married-joint for the obvious benefits, but her > > > > parents also want to claim here since they payed her tuition > > > > and over 50% of her expenses for the year. > > > > > > > According to the rules I have seen, her parents can still > > > > claim her as a dependent regardless of marital status. > > > > Half of the people I talked to said we can file > > > > married-joint, but that her 3,300 deduction can not be > > > > claimed. The other half say we must file separate and take > > > > the penalties. > > > Can anyone clarify which status may be used? > > > You can file a joint return if you want to. If you do so, > > > her parents will not be able to claim her as a dependent > > > unless the only reason you are filing a joint return is > > > to get back all your withholding because you don't owe > > > any tax. > > > > > If you want to allow her parents to claim her, then you > > > must each file married filing separately. > > Both She and I will be receiving refunds on federal. When I > > file my state separate I show a refund, but together we show > > owing a $43 penalty. Is it possible to file federal joint > > and then each file our own state ? Hers is in a different > > state than mine. > It depends on the states involved. Often states require the > same filing status as federal, but there are exceptions. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Impalpable" <impalpable_2...[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > "bono9...[at]yahoo.com" <bono9...[at]yahoo.com> wrote:
It depends on the states involved. Often states require the> > impalpable_2...[at]hotmail.com wrote: > > > I am a bit confused by the dependent tax rules for 2006-on. > > > My wife and I were married December 30, 2006. We would like > > > to file married-joint for the obvious benefits, but her > > > parents also want to claim here since they payed her tuition > > > and over 50% of her expenses for the year. > > > > > According to the rules I have seen, her parents can still > > > claim her as a dependent regardless of marital status. > > > Half of the people I talked to said we can file > > > married-joint, but that her 3,300 deduction can not be > > > claimed. The other half say we must file separate and take > > > the penalties. > > Can anyone clarify which status may be used? > > You can file a joint return if you want to. If you do so, > > her parents will not be able to claim her as a dependent > > unless the only reason you are filing a joint return is > > to get back all your withholding because you don't owe > > any tax. > > > If you want to allow her parents to claim her, then you > > must each file married filing separately. > Both She and I will be receiving refunds on federal. When I > file my state separate I show a refund, but together we show > owing a $43 penalty. Is it possible to file federal joint > and then each file our own state ? Hers is in a different > state than mine. same filing status as federal, but there are exceptions. Katie in San Diego << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Impalpable" <impalpable_2002[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Both She and I will be receiving refunds on federal.
Note that the test is not whether you get a refund. It'swhether you get a refund of ALL your withheld income tax. If either of you would get only a partial refund, her parents cannot claim her if you file a joint return. - quote - > When I file my state separate I show a refund, but together
What happens on your state returns doesn't affect the> we show owing a $43 penalty. Federal dependency exemption issue. - quote - > Is it possible to file federal joint
That's going to depend on the states.> and then each file our own state ? Hers is in a different > state than mine. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| AK47 <ak47c...[at]hotcoolmaildogs.com> wrote: - quote - > "bono9...[at]yahoo.com" <bono9...[at]yahoo.com> wrote in
They aren't sure yet. They have a CPA doing their taxes,> > impalpable_2...[at]hotmail.com wrote: > > > I am a bit confused by the dependent tax rules for 2006-on. > > > > > My wife and I were married December 30, 2006. We would like > > > to file married-joint for the obvious benefits, but her > > > parents also want to claim here since they payed her tuition > > > and over 50% of her expenses for the year. > > > > > According to the rules I have seen, her parents can still > > > claim her as a dependent regardless of marital status. > > > Half of the people I talked to said we can file > > > married-joint, but that her 3,300 deduction can not be > > > claimed. The other half say we must file separate and take > > > the penalties. > > > > > Can anyone clarify which status may be used? > > You can file a joint return if you want to. If you do so, > > her parents will not be able to claim her as a dependent > > unless the only reason you are filing a joint return is > > to get back all your withholding because you don't owe > > any tax. > > > If you want to allow her parents to claim her, then you > > must each file married filing separately. > Are the parents certain that they will get a benefit from > claiming the daughter as a dependent? and they have income from 4 states. It is taking them awhile to get back to me. I'm not sure why our federal refund gets larger when filing joint. It just happens when I try turbotax online. She only made 2k last year. Joint we made just under 40k, so I tried running it through the various freefile services to see what happened. Perhaps it is because she gets all of her taxable income back and deserves more ? Either way she doesn't get the personal deduction because she is being claimed. We are both using our standard deductions as there is not much to itemize as newlyweds fresh out of school. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "bono9763[at]yahoo.com" <bono9763[at]yahoo.com> wrote in - quote - > impalpable_2...[at]hotmail.com wrote:
Are the parents certain that they will get a benefit from> > I am a bit confused by the dependent tax rules for 2006-on. > > > My wife and I were married December 30, 2006. We would like > > to file married-joint for the obvious benefits, but her > > parents also want to claim here since they payed her tuition > > and over 50% of her expenses for the year. > > > According to the rules I have seen, her parents can still > > claim her as a dependent regardless of marital status. > > Half of the people I talked to said we can file > > married-joint, but that her 3,300 deduction can not be > > claimed. The other half say we must file separate and take > > the penalties. > > > Can anyone clarify which status may be used? > You can file a joint return if you want to. If you do so, > her parents will not be able to claim her as a dependent > unless the only reason you are filing a joint return is > to get back all your withholding because you don't owe > any tax. > If you want to allow her parents to claim her, then you > must each file married filing separately. claiming the daughter as a dependent? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "bono9...[at]yahoo.com" <bono9...[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > impalpable_2...[at]hotmail.com wrote:
Both She and I will be receiving refunds on federal. When I> > I am a bit confused by the dependent tax rules for 2006-on. > > > My wife and I were married December 30, 2006. We would like > > to file married-joint for the obvious benefits, but her > > parents also want to claim here since they payed her tuition > > and over 50% of her expenses for the year. > > > According to the rules I have seen, her parents can still > > claim her as a dependent regardless of marital status. > > Half of the people I talked to said we can file > > married-joint, but that her 3,300 deduction can not be > > claimed. The other half say we must file separate and take > > the penalties. > > > Can anyone clarify which status may be used? > You can file a joint return if you want to. If you do so, > her parents will not be able to claim her as a dependent > unless the only reason you are filing a joint return is > to get back all your withholding because you don't owe > any tax. > If you want to allow her parents to claim her, then you > must each file married filing separately. file my state separate I show a refund, but together we show owing a $43 penalty. Is it possible to file federal joint and then each file our own state ? Hers is in a different state than mine. Thank you for the help. Next year this won't be an issue, but right now this is slightly confusing. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "bono9...[at]yahoo.com" <bono9...[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > You can file a joint return if you want to. If you do so,
Actually it's a bit stricter than than. A person filing a> her parents will not be able to claim her as a dependent > unless the only reason you are filing a joint return is > to get back all your withholding because you don't owe > any tax. joint return can be claimed as a dependent if and only if the proposed dependent and the spouse would get all their money back whether filing married-separate or jointly. If filing a joint return results in a bigger refund (from EIC or refundable child credit, as examples) then a joint return destroys the dependency exemption for anyone else. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| impalpable_2...[at]hotmail.com wrote: - quote - > I am a bit confused by the dependent tax rules for 2006-on.
You can file a joint return if you want to. If you do so,> My wife and I were married December 30, 2006. We would like > to file married-joint for the obvious benefits, but her > parents also want to claim here since they payed her tuition > and over 50% of her expenses for the year. > According to the rules I have seen, her parents can still > claim her as a dependent regardless of marital status. > Half of the people I talked to said we can file > married-joint, but that her 3,300 deduction can not be > claimed. The other half say we must file separate and take > the penalties. > Can anyone clarify which status may be used? her parents will not be able to claim her as a dependent unless the only reason you are filing a joint return is to get back all your withholding because you don't owe any tax. If you want to allow her parents to claim her, then you must each file married filing separately. Dennis << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I am a bit confused by the dependent tax rules for 2006-on. My wife and I were married December 30, 2006. We would like to file married-joint for the obvious benefits, but her parents also want to claim here since they payed her tuition and over 50% of her expenses for the year. According to the rules I have seen, her parents can still claim her as a dependent regardless of marital status. Half of the people I talked to said we can file married-joint, but that her 3,300 deduction can not be claimed. The other half say we must file separate and take the penalties. Can anyone clarify which status may be used ? Thanks for the help. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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