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| Residential rental property (single family detached house) purchased for $44,000 and placed in service in 1981. Without any other evidence, is it reasonable to assume the depreciable building portion is two-thirds of the purchase price ($29,333)? House sold in 2006 for $118,000; would have been fully depreciated by the sale date as 15 year ACRS property. None of the depreciation was after May 1997. The adjusted basis is approx. $54,000, the gain is $64,000. Reporting sale in Part III of Form 4797. Is the depreciation portion of the gain taxed as ordinary income ([at]28% in this case) or at the 25% rate? (Where is the 25% rate on the Sched D worksheet?) Is the balance of the gain taxed at 15%? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "olivia" <olivia.carmichael[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I am a first time landlord and rented our previous home in
you should contact your CPA/tax advisor & amend last year's> September-2005. When I filed my taxes last year, I did not > depreciate. My perception (or rather misunderstanding) was > that if I claim depreciation, that will be decreased from > the cost basis of the property and hence "reduce the buying > price" and hence increase my effective profit when I sell > the property in future years, hence increase my tax > liability when I decide to sell the property. As it turns > out, I was wrong. Based on the information that I have read > on the internet, it seems that the depreciation will anyway > be deducted and taxed when I sell the property whether or > not I have claimed it in the past years or not. Please > correct me if I am wrong here. > I have read some IRS publications regarding depreciation but > have not been able to get the answers that I need. I have > the following questions and would appreciate if you can > either point me to a resource, previous posts or please > answer this question for me. > 1. Is depreciation taxed when I sell the property even if I > do not claim it in previous years is correct or wrong? > 2. Can I claim the depreciation for previous year (since I > did not claim it then)? In my case, the home was rented for > only 4 months in 2005. If so, what form shoudl I be using to > do that? > 3. From previous question, if I am not able to claim the > depreciation for the previous year (2005), will it > automatically be deducted from cost basis when I sell the > home in the future? > 4. Is it actually better in some scenarios to not claim > depreciation and let it lower the cost basis in the year of > sale to claim a lower tax rate/liability then (if it indeed > is lower, I am not sure)? I seem to have read > I would appreciate any responses in this regard tax return to claim the depreciation ___________________________________ <<< Benjamin Yazersky, CPA [NJ & NY] > > -----> real address on hobokeni or hobokenx <----- << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "olivia" <olivia.carmichael[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I am a first time landlord and rented our previous home in
You're right. You have to recapture depreciation that is> September-2005. When I filed my taxes last year, I did not > depreciate. My perception (or rather misunderstanding) was > that if I claim depreciation, that will be decreased from > the cost basis of the property and hence "reduce the buying > price" and hence increase my effective profit when I sell > the property in future years, hence increase my tax > liability when I decide to sell the property. As it turns > out, I was wrong. Based on the information that I have read > on the internet, it seems that the depreciation will anyway > be deducted and taxed when I sell the property whether or > not I have claimed it in the past years or not. Please > correct me if I am wrong here. "allowed or allowable." That means even if you didn't actually take the depreciation, you have to treat it as if you did. - quote - > 1. Is depreciation taxed when I sell the property even if I
If you could have legitimately taken depreciation, it is> do not claim it in previous years is correct or wrong? treated as if you did when you sell. - quote - > 2. Can I claim the depreciation for previous year (since I
File an amended return. You can't take last year's> did not claim it then)? In my case, the home was rented for > only 4 months in 2005. If so, what form shoudl I be using to > do that? depreciation on this year's tax return. - quote - > 3. From previous question, if I am not able to claim the
Automatically? Probably not. But if the IRS questions the> depreciation for the previous year (2005), will it > automatically be deducted from cost basis when I sell the > home in the future? transaction, they will do it then. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "olivia" <olivia.carmich...[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I am a first time landlord and rented our previous home in
1. Recapture of depreciation occurs whether or not you took> September-2005. When I filed my taxes last year, I did not > depreciate. My perception (or rather misunderstanding) was > that if I claim depreciation, that will be decreased from > the cost basis of the property and hence "reduce the buying > price" and hence increase my effective profit when I sell > the property in future years, hence increase my tax > liability when I decide to sell the property. As it turns > out, I was wrong. Based on the information that I have read > on the internet, it seems that the depreciation will anyway > be deducted and taxed when I sell the property whether or > not I have claimed it in the past years or not. Please > correct me if I am wrong here. > I have read some IRS publications regarding depreciation but > have not been able to get the answers that I need. I have > the following questions and would appreciate if you can > either point me to a resource, previous posts or please > answer this question for me. > 1. Is depreciation taxed when I sell the property even if I > do not claim it in previous years is correct or wrong? > 2. Can I claim the depreciation for previous year (since I > did not claim it then)? In my case, the home was rented for > only 4 months in 2005. If so, what form shoudl I be using to > do that? > 3. From previous question, if I am not able to claim the > depreciation for the previous year (2005), will it > automatically be deducted from cost basis when I sell the > home in the future? > 4. Is it actually better in some scenarios to not claim > depreciation and let it lower the cost basis in the year of > sale to claim a lower tax rate/liability then (if it indeed > is lower, I am not sure)? I seem to have read > I would appreciate any responses in this regard the depreciation in the United States. This is different in Canada where recapture only occurs on what depreciation was originally taken. 2. File an amendment showing the documentation. In Canada, you use the T1-ADJ. In the United States, the 1040X. You will need to provide the other forms. 3. In the US, yes. In Canada, no, in an appreciating market. In Canada, yes, in a declining market. 4. In the US, no. In Canada, yes, in an appreciating market. In Canada, no, in a declining market. Declining market is one where the prices are going down. Appreciating market is the inverse. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I am a first time landlord and rented our previous home in September-2005. When I filed my taxes last year, I did not depreciate. My perception (or rather misunderstanding) was that if I claim depreciation, that will be decreased from the cost basis of the property and hence "reduce the buying price" and hence increase my effective profit when I sell the property in future years, hence increase my tax liability when I decide to sell the property. As it turns out, I was wrong. Based on the information that I have read on the internet, it seems that the depreciation will anyway be deducted and taxed when I sell the property whether or not I have claimed it in the past years or not. Please correct me if I am wrong here. I have read some IRS publications regarding depreciation but have not been able to get the answers that I need. I have the following questions and would appreciate if you can either point me to a resource, previous posts or please answer this question for me. 1. Is depreciation taxed when I sell the property even if I do not claim it in previous years is correct or wrong? 2. Can I claim the depreciation for previous year (since I did not claim it then)? In my case, the home was rented for only 4 months in 2005. If so, what form shoudl I be using to do that? 3. From previous question, if I am not able to claim the depreciation for the previous year (2005), will it automatically be deducted from cost basis when I sell the home in the future? 4. Is it actually better in some scenarios to not claim depreciation and let it lower the cost basis in the year of sale to claim a lower tax rate/liability then (if it indeed is lower, I am not sure)? I seem to have read I would appreciate any responses in this regard Olivia << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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