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| xzebr...[at]aol.com wrote: - quote - > In the 2006 case where a below phase-out taxpayer pays
Can it be any clearer than the following from Pub 970?> out-of-pocket $14k of qualifying tuition for the same > dependent-student (and all other qualifying rules are met), > can anybody provide an authority for claiming a Lifetime > Credit of 20% x $10k and also claiming a Tuition and Fees > deduction for $4k?, (or any combination), where there is no > double benefit (credit and deduction) for the same expenses. > The applicable IRS pub and most discussions says that the > Lifetime Credit and the Tuition Deduction cannot be claimed > "as a double benefit" in the same year "for the same > individual." =A0However, the meaning of this could reasonably > be interpreted to mean a double benefit "for the same > expenses." > A well known financial adviser recently writes that a Hope > or Lifetime credit =A0*can* be combined with the Tuition > deduction - "but not for the same expenses." This =A0is > different than the literal reading of the IRS pub. =A0Now that > I have thought about it, =A0I'm not certain that the financial > adviser is right or wrong. > Rereading IRC 222 and 25A, and the regs, there is ambiguity > and the word "expenses" =A0is often used. Also, all examples > are for smaller tuition amounts which seem to imply rules > for a non-duplication of credit/ deduction benefits for the > *same expenses.* > Would appreciate any comments. =A0Okay to tell me if it seems > I'm trying to rewrite the statute too!, but it is not > crystal clear. << You cannot do any of the following. Deduct qualified education expenses you deduct under any other provision of the law, for example, as a business expense. Deduct qualified education expenses for a student on your income tax return if you or anyone else claims a Hope or lifetime learning credit for that same student in the same year. Deduct qualified education expenses that have been used to figure the tax-free portion of a distribution from a Coverdell education savings account (ESA) or a qualified tuition program (QTP). For a QTP, this applies only to the amount of tax-free earnings that were distributed, not to the recovery of contributions to the program. See Figuring the Taxable Portion of a Distribution in chapter 7 (Coverdell ESA) and in chapter 8 (QTP). Deduct qualified education expenses that have been paid with tax-free interest on U.S. savings bonds (Form 8815). See Figuring the Tax-Free Amount in chapter 10. Deduct qualified education expenses that have been paid with tax-free scholarship, grant, or employer- provided educational assistance. See the following section on Adjustments to Qualified Education Expenses. - quote - > << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| In the 2006 case where a below phase-out taxpayer pays out-of-pocket $14k of qualifying tuition for the same dependent-student (and all other qualifying rules are met), can anybody provide an authority for claiming a Lifetime Credit of 20% x $10k and also claiming a Tuition and Fees deduction for $4k?, (or any combination), where there is no double benefit (credit and deduction) for the same expenses. The applicable IRS pub and most discussions says that the Lifetime Credit and the Tuition Deduction cannot be claimed "as a double benefit" in the same year "for the same individual." However, the meaning of this could reasonably be interpreted to mean a double benefit "for the same expenses." A well known financial adviser recently writes that a Hope or Lifetime credit *can* be combined with the Tuition deduction - "but not for the same expenses." This is different than the literal reading of the IRS pub. Now that I have thought about it, I'm not certain that the financial adviser is right or wrong. Rereading IRC 222 and 25A, and the regs, there is ambiguity and the word "expenses" is often used. Also, all examples are for smaller tuition amounts which seem to imply rules for a non-duplication of credit/ deduction benefits for the *same expenses.* Would appreciate any comments. Okay to tell me if it seems I'm trying to rewrite the statute too!, but it is not crystal clear. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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