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| Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote: - quote - > frank1492 wrote:
As I stated in my initial post, the taxpayer "could" have> > The IRS info is very confusing on this point. This person > > received compensation of about $3000 for office painting > > (not a part of his regular job) at the business at which he > > was employed. The employer reported this on a 1099-Misc Form > > as "non-employee compensation." > > > Does this properly belong on Schedule C? (The IRS seems to > > suggest that it should be even though he is not technically > > self-employed and does not seem to operate a "sole > > proprietorship.")I have no idea what to include, and what is > > the "principal business?" The office girl says to put the > > name of the business there and then put the person's home > > address in the address area. That doesn't seem right at all! > > > I would not expect this activity to recur, but other > > "chores" for pay are possible sporadically over time at the > > company. > > > Please explain what lines should be included. I expect most > > of Schedule C would be left blank. > Employer handled everything properly =A0(apologies to Mike > Wellman). An mainline employee, 40 hours a week, regular > paid guy, gets a W2 for his "day job". =A0 But he could be a > self employed painter for anybody, including his regular > employer. > Use a schedule c. =A0principal business is "construction - > painting", and name of business is "self", =A0and address is > home address. > If employer didn't furnish all the supplies, don't forget to > deduct any of those on the schedule c. been considered a self-employed painter and a 1099 would have been appropriate. However, the facts made it very clear that was not the case. Try walking these facts through form SS-8 and see how far you get. I could envision the employee being asked to perform other "chores" to quote the poster, such as counting inventory at year end or helping move the employer from one office to another. So under your theory, the employer would issue a 1099 for those discreet tasks and the employee would file a Schedule C for each, showing the type business as "Inventory Counter" and "Office Mover". I respectfully disagree. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| frank1492 wrote: - quote - > The IRS info is very confusing on this point. This person
Employer handled everything properly (apologies to Mike> received compensation of about $3000 for office painting > (not a part of his regular job) at the business at which he > was employed. The employer reported this on a 1099-Misc Form > as "non-employee compensation." > Does this properly belong on Schedule C? (The IRS seems to > suggest that it should be even though he is not technically > self-employed and does not seem to operate a "sole > proprietorship.")I have no idea what to include, and what is > the "principal business?" The office girl says to put the > name of the business there and then put the person's home > address in the address area. That doesn't seem right at all! > I would not expect this activity to recur, but other > "chores" for pay are possible sporadically over time at the > company. > Please explain what lines should be included. I expect most > of Schedule C would be left blank. Wellman). An mainline employee, 40 hours a week, regular paid guy, gets a W2 for his "day job". But he could be a self employed painter for anybody, including his regular employer. Use a schedule c. principal business is "construction - painting", and name of business is "self", and address is home address. If employer didn't furnish all the supplies, don't forget to deduct any of those on the schedule c. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| frank1492 <frank1...[at]verizon.net> wrote: - quote - > The IRS info is very confusing on this point. This person
The general rule is that if you are an employee, all> received compensation of about $3000 for office painting > (not a part of his regular job) at the business at which he > was employed. The employer reported this on a 1099-Misc Form > as "non-employee compensation." > Does this properly belong on Schedule C? (The IRS seems to > suggest that it should be even though he is not technically > self-employed and does not seem to operate a "sole > proprietorship.")I have no idea what to include, and what is > the "principal business?" The office girl says to put the > name of the business there and then put the person's home > address in the address area. That doesn't seem right at all! > I would not expect this activity to recur, but other > "chores" for pay are possible sporadically over time at the > company. > Please explain what lines should be included. I expect most > of Schedule C would be left blank. > Very confusing! compensation should be reported on a W-2, with appropriate withholding. An arguement could be made to the contrary if you had a side business that did painting for other customers and held yourself out to the public in that regard. In my opinion, the 1099 needs to be rescinded and the W-2 corrected. In case that does not happen and/or you do not want to press the issue, you would report the income on a Schedule C -- and take appropriate deductions. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| The IRS info is very confusing on this point. This person received compensation of about $3000 for office painting (not a part of his regular job) at the business at which he was employed. The employer reported this on a 1099-Misc Form as "non-employee compensation." Does this properly belong on Schedule C? (The IRS seems to suggest that it should be even though he is not technically self-employed and does not seem to operate a "sole proprietorship.")I have no idea what to include, and what is the "principal business?" The office girl says to put the name of the business there and then put the person's home address in the address area. That doesn't seem right at all! I would not expect this activity to recur, but other "chores" for pay are possible sporadically over time at the company. Please explain what lines should be included. I expect most of Schedule C would be left blank. Very confusing! Thank you! Frank << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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