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Old 02-19-2007, 01:32 AM
Mike Wellman
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Default Re: How to Report Painting the Office (1099 Non-Employee Compensation)

Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> frank1492 wrote:
> > The IRS info is very confusing on this point. This person
> > received compensation of about $3000 for office painting
> > (not a part of his regular job) at the business at which he
> > was employed. The employer reported this on a 1099-Misc Form
> > as "non-employee compensation."
> > > Does this properly belong on Schedule C? (The IRS seems to

> > suggest that it should be even though he is not technically
> > self-employed and does not seem to operate a "sole
> > proprietorship.")I have no idea what to include, and what is
> > the "principal business?" The office girl says to put the
> > name of the business there and then put the person's home
> > address in the address area. That doesn't seem right at all!
> > > I would not expect this activity to recur, but other

> > "chores" for pay are possible sporadically over time at the
> > company.
> > > Please explain what lines should be included. I expect most

> > of Schedule C would be left blank.


> Employer handled everything properly =A0(apologies to Mike
> Wellman). An mainline employee, 40 hours a week, regular
> paid guy, gets a W2 for his "day job". =A0 But he could be a
> self employed painter for anybody, including his regular
> employer.
> Use a schedule c. =A0principal business is "construction -
> painting", and name of business is "self", =A0and address is
> home address.
> If employer didn't furnish all the supplies, don't forget to
> deduct any of those on the schedule c.


As I stated in my initial post, the taxpayer "could" have
been considered a self-employed painter and a 1099 would
have been appropriate. However, the facts made it very clear
that was not the case. Try walking these facts through form
SS-8 and see how far you get.

I could envision the employee being asked to perform other
"chores" to quote the poster, such as counting inventory at
year end or helping move the employer from one office to
another. So under your theory, the employer would issue a
1099 for those discreet tasks and the employee would file a
Schedule C for each, showing the type business as "Inventory
Counter" and "Office Mover".

I respectfully disagree.

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Old 02-17-2007, 09:17 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Default Re: How to Report Painting the Office (1099 Non-Employee Compensation)

frank1492 wrote:

- quote -

> The IRS info is very confusing on this point. This person
> received compensation of about $3000 for office painting
> (not a part of his regular job) at the business at which he
> was employed. The employer reported this on a 1099-Misc Form
> as "non-employee compensation."
> Does this properly belong on Schedule C? (The IRS seems to
> suggest that it should be even though he is not technically
> self-employed and does not seem to operate a "sole
> proprietorship.")I have no idea what to include, and what is
> the "principal business?" The office girl says to put the
> name of the business there and then put the person's home
> address in the address area. That doesn't seem right at all!
> I would not expect this activity to recur, but other
> "chores" for pay are possible sporadically over time at the
> company.
> Please explain what lines should be included. I expect most
> of Schedule C would be left blank.


Employer handled everything properly (apologies to Mike
Wellman). An mainline employee, 40 hours a week, regular
paid guy, gets a W2 for his "day job". But he could be a
self employed painter for anybody, including his regular
employer.

Use a schedule c. principal business is "construction -
painting", and name of business is "self", and address is
home address.

If employer didn't furnish all the supplies, don't forget to
deduct any of those on the schedule c.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 02-15-2007, 02:01 AM
Mike Wellman
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Default Re: How to Report Painting the Office (1099 Non-Employee Compensation)

frank1492 <frank1...[at]verizon.net> wrote:

- quote -

> The IRS info is very confusing on this point. This person
> received compensation of about $3000 for office painting
> (not a part of his regular job) at the business at which he
> was employed. The employer reported this on a 1099-Misc Form
> as "non-employee compensation."
> Does this properly belong on Schedule C? (The IRS seems to
> suggest that it should be even though he is not technically
> self-employed and does not seem to operate a "sole
> proprietorship.")I have no idea what to include, and what is
> the "principal business?" The office girl says to put the
> name of the business there and then put the person's home
> address in the address area. That doesn't seem right at all!
> I would not expect this activity to recur, but other
> "chores" for pay are possible sporadically over time at the
> company.
> Please explain what lines should be included. I expect most
> of Schedule C would be left blank.
> Very confusing!


The general rule is that if you are an employee, all
compensation should be reported on a W-2, with appropriate
withholding. An arguement could be made to the contrary if
you had a side business that did painting for other
customers and held yourself out to the public in that
regard. In my opinion, the 1099 needs to be rescinded and
the W-2 corrected.

In case that does not happen and/or you do not want to press
the issue, you would report the income on a Schedule C --
and take appropriate deductions.

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Old 02-13-2007, 09:22 PM
frank1492
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Default How to Report Painting the Office (1099 Non-Employee Compensation)

The IRS info is very confusing on this point. This person
received compensation of about $3000 for office painting
(not a part of his regular job) at the business at which he
was employed. The employer reported this on a 1099-Misc Form
as "non-employee compensation."

Does this properly belong on Schedule C? (The IRS seems to
suggest that it should be even though he is not technically
self-employed and does not seem to operate a "sole
proprietorship.")I have no idea what to include, and what is
the "principal business?" The office girl says to put the
name of the business there and then put the person's home
address in the address area. That doesn't seem right at all!

I would not expect this activity to recur, but other
"chores" for pay are possible sporadically over time at the
company.

Please explain what lines should be included. I expect most
of Schedule C would be left blank.

Very confusing!
Thank you!
Frank

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