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Old 02-03-2007, 06:14 AM
mrtax
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Default Re: Cancelling 1040 Return after it was Accepted by IRS?

I forgot to mention that the tax was processed
electronically.

Could they take the return directly to the IRS?

"You are not correct. If another original return is filed on
or before the due date"

^ can someone verify this?

Wouldnt the return get rejected (or returned if mailed) if
it was already accepted?

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Old 02-03-2007, 06:14 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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somesnapperishe[at]gmail.com wrote:

- quote -

> I sent a customers tax return, it was accepted by the IRS,
> and one days later the client wanted to add a dependant.
> I know for a fact that this cannot be stopped or cancelled,
> her only option is a 1040-X (amendment).
> I called our software provider and bank, they agreed with
> me.
> I called the IRS/checked the website but it was too soon to
> get a status on the return or to be able to speak to
> someone.
> How else can I prove to the client that the return was
> accepted and the only way to add a child is to file an
> Amendment?
> Is there any official IRS documents that state this? is
> there a number we can call to verify?
> I would like to help this client to my best abilities.


Well first of all, you should have by now the ACK reflecting
IRS acceptance of the return. You DO know what an ACK is,
right?

Next, look at publication 1345 and 1346 and find the section
where it talks about amending previously efiled returns as
THE only solution. (I have two on my desk right now, one for
a son erroneously claimed, and another for more interest
income. Oh, and a third for another W2 received after we
efiled her return on Tuesday. that makes three.)

If all this fails, tell your clients that I, an old and
established efiler from 1989, says it's so.

Well, not "old"; I mean "longstanding" electronic return
originator.' (ERO)

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 02-03-2007, 12:15 AM
Katie
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somesnapperi...[at]gmail.com wrote:

- quote -

> I sent a customers tax return, it was accepted by the IRS,
> and one days later the client wanted to add a dependant.
> I know for a fact that this cannot be stopped or cancelled,
> her only option is a 1040-X (amendment).
> I called our software provider and bank, they agreed with
> me.
> I called the IRS/checked the website but it was too soon to
> get a status on the return or to be able to speak to
> someone.
> How else can I prove to the client that the return was
> accepted and the only way to add a child is to file an
> Amendment?
> Is there any official IRS documents that state this? is
> there a number we can call to verify?
> I would like to help this client to my best abilities.


I'm sure it used to be that as long as the original due date
of the return had not yet arrived, an error could be
corrected just by filing a substitute original return. The
return that was filed later would be considered the original
return by the IRS. I don't see that in the instructions any
more, though. Pub. 17 (p. 18) says you must file Form 1040X
to correct a return that has already been filed. It cannot
be filed electronically.

You can access Pub. 17 on the IRS's web site and show that
to your client.

This does bother me, though. What if you failed to make an
election that is statutorily required to be made on an
original return? Can't you still correct that by filing a
substitute original before the due date?

Katie in San Diego

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Old 02-02-2007, 11:36 PM
A.G. Kalman
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Default Re: Cancelling 1040 Return after it was Accepted by IRS?

somesnapperishe[at]gmail.com wrote:

- quote -

> I sent a customers tax return, it was accepted by the IRS,
> and one days later the client wanted to add a dependant.
> I know for a fact that this cannot be stopped or cancelled,
> her only option is a 1040-X (amendment).
> I called our software provider and bank, they agreed with
> me.
> I called the IRS/checked the website but it was too soon to
> get a status on the return or to be able to speak to
> someone.
> How else can I prove to the client that the return was
> accepted and the only way to add a child is to file an
> Amendment?
> Is there any official IRS documents that state this? is
> there a number we can call to verify?
> I would like to help this client to my best abilities.
> Thanks in advance


Print the acknowledgment form (9325) for that return.

--
Alan
http://taxtopics.net

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Old 02-02-2007, 11:17 PM
John D. Goulden
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Default Re: Cancelling 1040 Return after it was Accepted by IRS?

- quote -

> I sent a customers tax return, it was accepted by the IRS,
> and one days later the client wanted to add a dependant.
> I know for a fact that this cannot be stopped or cancelled,
> her only option is a 1040-X (amendment).
> How else can I prove to the client that the return was
> accepted and the only way to add a child is to file an
> Amendment?


Well, they hired you to do their taxes and presumably trust
your judgement, so they should just take your word for it.
By now the return will surely have been accepted or
rejected. If rejected, you can add the dependent now and
re-submit. If accepted, tell them that they'll need to file
a 1040X. I would advise you to have them wait until the
current return has been fully processed before filing the
amended return.

--
John D. Goulden

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Old 02-02-2007, 11:17 PM
Paul Thomas, CPA
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<somesnapperishe[at]gmail.com> wrote

- quote -

> I sent a customers tax return, it was accepted by the IRS,
> and one days later the client wanted to add a dependant.
> I know for a fact that this cannot be stopped or cancelled,
> her only option is a 1040-X (amendment).
> I called our software provider and bank, they agreed with
> me.
> I called the IRS/checked the website but it was too soon to
> get a status on the return or to be able to speak to
> someone.
> How else can I prove to the client that the return was
> accepted and the only way to add a child is to file an
> Amendment?
> Is there any official IRS documents that state this? is
> there a number we can call to verify?
> I would like to help this client to my best abilities.


It sounds like you are doing just that. You've already
received the acceptance notice, so file an amended return.
Any overage will be sent by check, I believe, because there
isn't a place on the 1040X to have direct deposit.

--
Paul Thomas, CPA
paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net

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Old 02-02-2007, 11:17 PM
Mike Wellman
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Default Re: Cancelling 1040 Return after it was Accepted by IRS?

somesnapperi...[at]gmail.com wrote:

- quote -

> I sent a customers tax return, it was accepted by the IRS,
> and one days later the client wanted to add a dependant.
> I know for a fact that this cannot be stopped or cancelled,
> her only option is a 1040-X (amendment).
> I called our software provider and bank, they agreed with
> me.
> I called the IRS/checked the website but it was too soon to
> get a status on the return or to be able to speak to
> someone.
> How else can I prove to the client that the return was
> accepted and the only way to add a child is to file an
> Amendment?
> Is there any official IRS documents that state this? is
> there a number we can call to verify?
> I would like to help this client to my best abilities.


You are not correct. If another original return is filed on
or before the due date, it will replace the first one. After
the due date, a 1040X would be required.

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Old 02-02-2007, 05:32 AM
somesnapperishe@gmail.com
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Default Cancelling 1040 Return after it was Accepted by IRS?

I sent a customers tax return, it was accepted by the IRS,
and one days later the client wanted to add a dependant.

I know for a fact that this cannot be stopped or cancelled,
her only option is a 1040-X (amendment).

I called our software provider and bank, they agreed with
me.

I called the IRS/checked the website but it was too soon to
get a status on the return or to be able to speak to
someone.

How else can I prove to the client that the return was
accepted and the only way to add a child is to file an
Amendment?

Is there any official IRS documents that state this? is
there a number we can call to verify?

I would like to help this client to my best abilities.

Thanks in advance

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