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| D.D. Palmer wrote: - quote - > "Benjamin Yazersky CPA" <johndoe[at]nowhere.com> wrote:
The instructions explicitly tell you to use Line 8. And, if> > "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer[at]hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Years ago my parents set up a trust for my kids (two account > > > in the same single trust for both of two kids) and purchased > > > a tax-deferred annuity. I am the trustee. We can debate the > > > wisdom of this and the investment chosen, but that is not > > > the nature of my question. > > > > > In 2006 as trustee I rolled the annuities from Allstate to > > > Vanguard. Today I received, for each account, Form 1099-R > > > showing a total distribution and the basis (contributions). > > > The distribution code is marked "6" which is for a tax-free > > > Section 1035 exchange. > > > > > Do I need to file a Form 1041 for the trust (there is no > > > other income or transactions in this trust) showing this > > > rollover, or does the distribution code "6" calm the IRS > > > computers that this is a rollover?? > > I'd file the 1041 > I looked at the 1041 and could not find where to report > 1099-R income then where to reconcile the taxable amount as > zero. Any suggestions? that is the only "Other Income", you don't need a separate schedule. That said, as there is no taxable income to report, Line 8 would be zero. I would normally agree with Benjamin about starting the SOL clock, but in this case I would not file if there were no entries anywhere else in the Income section. -- Alan http://taxtopics.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > "Benjamin Yazersky CPA" <johndoe[at]nowhere.com> wrote:
I don't have the 1041 instructions in front of me right now,> > "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer[at]hotmail.com> wrote: > > > Years ago my parents set up a trust for my kids (two account > > > in the same single trust for both of two kids) and purchased > > > a tax-deferred annuity. I am the trustee. We can debate the > > > wisdom of this and the investment chosen, but that is not > > > the nature of my question. > > > > > In 2006 as trustee I rolled the annuities from Allstate to > > > Vanguard. Today I received, for each account, Form 1099-R > > > showing a total distribution and the basis (contributions). > > > The distribution code is marked "6" which is for a tax-free > > > Section 1035 exchange. > > > > > Do I need to file a Form 1041 for the trust (there is no > > > other income or transactions in this trust) showing this > > > rollover, or does the distribution code "6" calm the IRS > > > computers that this is a rollover?? > > I'd file the 1041 > I looked at the 1041 and could not find where to report > 1099-R income then where to reconcile the taxable amount as > zero. Any suggestions? but you should read them carefully. It might indicate where it goes. I would possibly attach a schedule showing the transactions. Another reason to file a 1041 is that it starts the statute of limitiations. ___________________________________ <<< Benjamin Yazersky, CPA [NJ & NY] > > -----> real address on hobokeni or hobokenx <----- << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Benjamin Yazersky CPA" <johndoe[at]nowhere.com> wrote: - quote - > "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer[at]hotmail.com> wrote:
I looked at the 1041 and could not find where to report> > Years ago my parents set up a trust for my kids (two account > > in the same single trust for both of two kids) and purchased > > a tax-deferred annuity. I am the trustee. We can debate the > > wisdom of this and the investment chosen, but that is not > > the nature of my question. > > > In 2006 as trustee I rolled the annuities from Allstate to > > Vanguard. Today I received, for each account, Form 1099-R > > showing a total distribution and the basis (contributions). > > The distribution code is marked "6" which is for a tax-free > > Section 1035 exchange. > > > Do I need to file a Form 1041 for the trust (there is no > > other income or transactions in this trust) showing this > > rollover, or does the distribution code "6" calm the IRS > > computers that this is a rollover?? > I'd file the 1041 1099-R income then where to reconcile the taxable amount as zero. Any suggestions? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "D.D. Palmer" <ddpalmer[at]hotmail.com> wrote: - quote - > Years ago my parents set up a trust for my kids (two account
I'd file the 1041> in the same single trust for both of two kids) and purchased > a tax-deferred annuity. I am the trustee. We can debate the > wisdom of this and the investment chosen, but that is not > the nature of my question. > In 2006 as trustee I rolled the annuities from Allstate to > Vanguard. Today I received, for each account, Form 1099-R > showing a total distribution and the basis (contributions). > The distribution code is marked "6" which is for a tax-free > Section 1035 exchange. > Do I need to file a Form 1041 for the trust (there is no > other income or transactions in this trust) showing this > rollover, or does the distribution code "6" calm the IRS > computers that this is a rollover?? ___________________________________ <<< Benjamin Yazersky, CPA [NJ & NY] > > -----> real address on hobokeni or hobokenx <----- << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Years ago my parents set up a trust for my kids (two account in the same single trust for both of two kids) and purchased a tax-deferred annuity. I am the trustee. We can debate the wisdom of this and the investment chosen, but that is not the nature of my question. In 2006 as trustee I rolled the annuities from Allstate to Vanguard. Today I received, for each account, Form 1099-R showing a total distribution and the basis (contributions). The distribution code is marked "6" which is for a tax-free Section 1035 exchange. Do I need to file a Form 1041 for the trust (there is no other income or transactions in this trust) showing this rollover, or does the distribution code "6" calm the IRS computers that this is a rollover?? << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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