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| Ian Pilcher wrote: - quote - > Page 9 of Publication 525 states, "Any income on the excess
..... unless, of course, you scroll down a little bit.> deferral taken out is taxable in the year in which you take > it out." That seems pretty clear, but it doesn't answer the > question of how the income should be reported -- as > interest/dividends/capital gains or just included in the > "Wages, salaries, tips, etc." line of the 1040. (Where it clearly states that the earnings on the excess contribution are reported on the "Wages, salaries, tips, etc." line of your 1040. That Pilcher guy must be a real idiot! -- ================================================== =========== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher[at]comcast.net ================================================== =========== << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Phil Marti wrote: - quote - > You must have read something wrong. The earnings are also
I'll definitely have to check on that. One of the papers> taxable in 2006 and go on line 7 of the 1040. See the > instructions for the 1040 and IRS Publication 525. that accompanied the check (from Fidelity) includes the following text: Return of Excess Distribution Description Please keep this report for your records. It has been determined that you made an excess deferral to the above referenced retirement plan in 2006. Under IRS regulations, the excess deferral must be returned to you along with related earnings. The full amount of the excess deferral is taxable to you in 2006 and the earnings, if any, are taxable to you in 2007. If you had a gain on the excess deferral, you will receive two IRS Forms 1099-R reflecting these corrective distributions in January 2008. Your excess deferral amount is $XXX.XX and your earnings amount is $XX.XX. I'm pretty sure that I didn't read that wrong. :-) -- ================================================== =========== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher[at]comcast.net ================================================== =========== << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Phil Marti wrote: - quote - > You must have read something wrong. The earnings are also
Responding again after reviewing Publication 525...> taxable in 2006 and go on line 7 of the 1040. See the > instructions for the 1040 and IRS Publication 525. I was under the same impression (that earnings were taxable in the same year as the excess deferrals) until I received the distribution check. After looking at Publication 525, however, it looks like Fidelity is correct. Page 9 of Publication 525 states, "Any income on the excess deferral taken out is taxable in the year in which you take it out." That seems pretty clear, but it doesn't answer the question of how the income should be reported -- as interest/dividends/capital gains or just included in the "Wages, salaries, tips, etc." line of the 1040. -- ================================================== =========== Ian Pilcher i.pilcher[at]comcast.net ================================================== =========== << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Ian Pilcher" <i.pilcher[at]comcast.net> wrote: - quote - > I just received the check for my 2006 excess 401(k)
You must have read something wrong. The earnings are also> deferral. The check is slightly larger than the amount of > the excess deferral, due to what the statement calls > "earnings". I know that the amount of the excess deferral > is added to line 7 of my 2006 1040, and the earnings are > taxable in 2007. taxable in 2006 and go on line 7 of the 1040. See the instructions for the 1040 and IRS Publication 525. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I just received the check for my 2006 excess 401(k) deferral. The check is slightly larger than the amount of the excess deferral, due to what the statement calls "earnings". I know that the amount of the excess deferral is added to line 7 of my 2006 1040, and the earnings are taxable in 2007. How should those earnings be reported in 2007? Do they also go on the "Wages, salaries, tips, etc." line, or are they reported as dividends and/or capital gains? Thanks! -- ================================================== ============ Ian Pilcher i.pilcher[at]comcast.net ================================================== ============ << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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