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Old 01-23-2007, 06:23 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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> > > 3 adult siblings own a summer property together. They all
> > > put funds in an account under one of their names to cover
> > > costs. The property taxes are paid out of this account.
> > > Who gets to deduct the property taxes paid. 1/3 to each?
> > > The total to the one who is the account owner? All are
> > > liable , all put the same funds in the account, but only one
> > > is on the account. Thanks


> > Well, since they all three own the property, it must be so
> > titled, i.e. in all their names. therefore they split the
> > deduction. Doesn't matter where funds come from.


> Do people really get to deduct taxes they didn't pay?
> The fact that the taxes were paid _through_ a single account
> shouldn't matter, but the fact that their _source_ was each
> of the three people does.


Well DUH! Point of clarification.

"Well, since they all three own the property, it must be so
titled, i.e. in all their names. therefore they split the
deduction. Doesn't matter from which account the funds come
from, (added!) as long as they all pay their fair share."

there, that better?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-22-2007, 07:59 AM
Seth Breidbart
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- quote -

> > 3 adult siblings own a summer property together. They all
> > put funds in an account under one of their names to cover
> > costs. The property taxes are paid out of this account.
> > Who gets to deduct the property taxes paid. 1/3 to each?
> > The total to the one who is the account owner? All are
> > liable , all put the same funds in the account, but only one
> > is on the account. Thanks


> Well, since they all three own the property, it must be so
> titled, i.e. in all their names. therefore they split the
> deduction. Doesn't matter where funds come from.


Do people really get to deduct taxes they didn't pay?

The fact that the taxes were paid _through_ a single account
shouldn't matter, but the fact that their _source_ was each
of the three people does.

If one of the owners has a bad year so the others each pay
half the taxes, I think they deduct what they paid. (Or, it
could be considered that they gifted the third with his
share of the taxes, which he paid from the gifts; but I
think that would need to be done explicitly.)

Seth

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Old 01-21-2007, 08:37 PM
San Diego CPA
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"SMF" <smfwdf[at]comcast.net> wrote:

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> 3 adult siblings own a summer property together. They all
> put funds in an account under one of their names to cover
> costs. The property taxes are paid out of this account.
> Who gets to deduct the property taxes paid. 1/3 to each?
> The total to the one who is the account owner? All are
> liable , all put the same funds in the account, but only one
> is on the account. Thanks


Whose bank account the money comes out of does not determine
who gets the deduction. Assuming all three names are on the
deed to the property and they each own 1/3, then absent any
special agreements, they should each get 1/3 of the income &
expenses related to the property.

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Old 01-21-2007, 08:37 PM
ed
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SMF wrote:

- quote -

> 3 adult siblings own a summer property together. They all
> put funds in an account under one of their names to cover
> costs. The property taxes are paid out of this account.
> Who gets to deduct the property taxes paid. 1/3 to each?
> The total to the one who is the account owner? All are
> liable , all put the same funds in the account, but only one
> is on the account. Thanks


The each own a 1/3 undivided interest in the property,
therefor, they each deduct 1/3 of the taxes. to get it in
erspective, consider that they are "partners" and if they
filed a 1065 they would have the 1/3 tax liability
distributed to each of them--same goes for a Trust.

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Old 01-20-2007, 12:44 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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SMF wrote:

- quote -

> 3 adult siblings own a summer property together. They all
> put funds in an account under one of their names to cover
> costs. The property taxes are paid out of this account.
> Who gets to deduct the property taxes paid. 1/3 to each?
> The total to the one who is the account owner? All are
> liable , all put the same funds in the account, but only one
> is on the account. Thanks


Well, since they all three own the property, it must be so
titled, i.e. in all their names. therefore they split the
deduction. Doesn't matter where funds come from.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-20-2007, 12:25 AM
kastnna
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SMF wrote:

- quote -

> 3 adult siblings own a summer property together. They all
> put funds in an account under one of their names to cover
> costs. The property taxes are paid out of this account.
> Who gets to deduct the property taxes paid. 1/3 to each?
> The total to the one who is the account owner? All are
> liable , all put the same funds in the account, but only one
> is on the account. Thanks


It depends on the underlying arrangements. It sounds like
the account owner only gets to make the deduction, but I
could be mistaken.

When you say "all are liable" what do you mean? Who will
hold you liable, the government, your siblings, a trust
arrangement? It doesn't sound like there are any LLC, FLP,
or trust documents that outline responsibilities of each
partner.

You should definitely consult an estate planner regarding
your current arrangement. You all are in a position to
create trouble (especially upon the death of one of the
siblings). Lawsuits, family arguments, divorces,
remarriages, and a dozen other situations could threaten the
property by keeping it in your names. The costs of the
potential problems far outweigh the costs of seeking
professional advice.

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Old 01-20-2007, 12:25 AM
Paul Thomas, CPA
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"SMF" <smfwdf[at]comcast.net> wrote

- quote -

> 3 adult siblings own a summer property together. They all
> put funds in an account under one of their names to cover
> costs. The property taxes are paid out of this account.
> Who gets to deduct the property taxes paid. 1/3 to each?
> The total to the one who is the account owner? All are
> liable , all put the same funds in the account, but only one
> is on the account. Thanks


All three should be able to take a deduction for their share
of the property taxes.

Proving it, if it comes up, will be more problematic, but
not impossible.

--
Paul Thomas, CPA
paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net

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Old 01-19-2007, 05:20 AM
SMF
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Default property tax - 3 owners

3 adult siblings own a summer property together. They all
put funds in an account under one of their names to cover
costs. The property taxes are paid out of this account.
Who gets to deduct the property taxes paid. 1/3 to each?
The total to the one who is the account owner? All are
liable , all put the same funds in the account, but only one
is on the account. Thanks

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