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Well, sure it is, now that you (and Linda) point that out:^)> > > been renting out for many years. When she first got her > > > mortgage she was charged private mortgage insurance because > > > her down payment was not 20%. I have been deducting this > > > insurance premium on her Sch. E. I recently got into a > > > discussion with a mortgage broker friend who says that this > > > premium is not deductible. After scouring the IRS sites and > > > the publication on rental property I have found that PMI is > > > not added to basis and is not amortized over the term of the > > > loan, but nowhere did I find it either permitted or > > > prohibited as a deduction as paid. Who is right? > > Not a deduction for 2006 or earlier. > > > For new loans with a PMI in 2007, and it expires in a year > > or two, PMI will be allowed as a mortgage deduction. > It's rental property, Art. You are all right. pmi is a deduction for rental property. -- Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > > My client has a single family rental house which she has
However, if the LTV ratio is now lower than 80%, the PMI> > been renting out for many years. When she first got her > > mortgage she was charged private mortgage insurance because > > her down payment was not 20%. I have been deducting this > > insurance premium on her Sch. E. I recently got into a > > discussion with a mortgage broker friend who says that this > > premium is not deductible. After scouring the IRS sites and > > the publication on rental property I have found that PMI is > > not added to basis and is not amortized over the term of the > > loan, but nowhere did I find it either permitted or > > prohibited as a deduction as paid. Who is right? > You are as far as rental property is concerned. should no longer be necessary. That can occur due to principal paydown, or value increase. Seth << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| - quote - > My client has a single family rental house which she has
And you thought a mortgage broker knew something about> been renting out for many years. When she first got her > mortgage she was charged private mortgage insurance because > her down payment was not 20%. I have been deducting this > insurance premium on her Sch. E. I recently got into a > discussion with a mortgage broker friend who says that this > premium is not deductible. taxation. - quote - > After scouring the IRS sites and
You are and it wasn't even close. It's a requirement of> the publication on rental property I have found that PMI is > not added to basis and is not amortized over the term of the > loan, but nowhere did I find it either permitted or > prohibited as a deduction as paid. Who is right? the loan for the benefit of the lender. Therefore, it is deductible. Dick << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Arthur Kamlet wrote: - quote - > DORFMONT[at]aol.com (Linda Dorfmont) <DORFMONT[at]aol.com> wrote:
It's rental property, Art.> > My client has a single family rental house which she has > > been renting out for many years. When she first got her > > mortgage she was charged private mortgage insurance because > > her down payment was not 20%. I have been deducting this > > insurance premium on her Sch. E. I recently got into a > > discussion with a mortgage broker friend who says that this > > premium is not deductible. After scouring the IRS sites and > > the publication on rental property I have found that PMI is > > not added to basis and is not amortized over the term of the > > loan, but nowhere did I find it either permitted or > > prohibited as a deduction as paid. Who is right? > Not a deduction for 2006 or earlier. > For new loans with a PMI in 2007, and it expires in a year > or two, PMI will be allowed as a mortgage deduction. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| DORFMONT[at]aol.com (Linda Dorfmont) wrote: - quote - > My client has a single family rental house which she has
You are as far as rental property is concerned.> been renting out for many years. When she first got her > mortgage she was charged private mortgage insurance because > her down payment was not 20%. I have been deducting this > insurance premium on her Sch. E. I recently got into a > discussion with a mortgage broker friend who says that this > premium is not deductible. After scouring the IRS sites and > the publication on rental property I have found that PMI is > not added to basis and is not amortized over the term of the > loan, but nowhere did I find it either permitted or > prohibited as a deduction as paid. Who is right? Never rely on mortgage brokers for useful tax advice. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| DORFMONT[at]aol.com (Linda Dorfmont) <DORFMONT[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > My client has a single family rental house which she has
Not a deduction for 2006 or earlier.> been renting out for many years. When she first got her > mortgage she was charged private mortgage insurance because > her down payment was not 20%. I have been deducting this > insurance premium on her Sch. E. I recently got into a > discussion with a mortgage broker friend who says that this > premium is not deductible. After scouring the IRS sites and > the publication on rental property I have found that PMI is > not added to basis and is not amortized over the term of the > loan, but nowhere did I find it either permitted or > prohibited as a deduction as paid. Who is right? For new loans with a PMI in 2007, and it expires in a year or two, PMI will be allowed as a mortgage deduction. -- Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "DORFMONT[at]aol.com (Linda Dorfmont)" <DORFMONT[at]aol.com> wrote: - quote - > My client has a single family rental house which she has
It's not deductible as an interest expense, because it's not> been renting out for many years. When she first got her > mortgage she was charged private mortgage insurance because > her down payment was not 20%. I have been deducting this > insurance premium on her Sch. E. I recently got into a > discussion with a mortgage broker friend who says that this > premium is not deductible. After scouring the IRS sites and > the publication on rental property I have found that PMI is > not added to basis and is not amortized over the term of the > loan, but nowhere did I find it either permitted or > prohibited as a deduction as paid. Who is right? interest. But I suppose it could be deductible as an ordinary and necessary business expense. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| DORFMONT[at]aol.com (Linda Dorfmont) wrote: - quote - > My client has a single family rental house which she has
You are.> been renting out for many years. When she first got her > mortgage she was charged private mortgage insurance because > her down payment was not 20%. I have been deducting this > insurance premium on her Sch. E. I recently got into a > discussion with a mortgage broker friend who says that this > premium is not deductible. After scouring the IRS sites and > the publication on rental property I have found that PMI is > not added to basis and is not amortized over the term of the > loan, but nowhere did I find it either permitted or > prohibited as a deduction as paid. Who is right? the mortgage broker was thinking only in terms of personal deductions on schedule a and didn't consider deductibility of ordinary and necessary rental expenses. ChEAr$, Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| My client has a single family rental house which she has been renting out for many years. When she first got her mortgage she was charged private mortgage insurance because her down payment was not 20%. I have been deducting this insurance premium on her Sch. E. I recently got into a discussion with a mortgage broker friend who says that this premium is not deductible. After scouring the IRS sites and the publication on rental property I have found that PMI is not added to basis and is not amortized over the term of the loan, but nowhere did I find it either permitted or prohibited as a deduction as paid. Who is right? Linda Dorfmont E.A., CFP, CSA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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