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Old 01-30-2007, 03:31 PM
DORFMONT@aol.com (Linda Dorfmont)
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Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsf...[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:

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> > > Ah! Come on, Harlan, It stands for "R"oyal southern
> > > Gentleman or Lady. =A0Mine has an R on the end, as well.
> > > And I consider me a Royal Southern Lady.


> > But I live in New York and have an R on the end of mine.
> > But it's upstate NY, where we do have cows and ducks and
> > stuff like that, so maybe I'm an honorary southerner.


> Not until you send me $19.95 for a certificate, Don.


Is there sales tax on that?

I have an R on mine too and I'm an Angelena. Notice the
spelling - it means I'm from Los Angeles, not that I hang
with Brad Pitt and adopt children from all over the place.
All my "children" flew in from Latin America.

Linda Dorfmont E.A., CFP, CSA and Macaw Farmer

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Old 01-29-2007, 06:11 AM
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> > But I live in New York and have an R on the end of mine.
> > But it's upstate NY, where we do have cows and ducks and
> > stuff like that, so maybe I'm an honorary southerner.


> Not until you send me $19.95 for a certificate, Don.


Sorry, all I have is those yankee greenbacks. Nothing that
would be legal tender down there.

http://www.wdfi.org/ymm/kids/history/greenbacks.asp

Don

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Old 01-28-2007, 09:54 PM
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Harlan Lunsford <hnslunsford[at]bellsouth.net> wrote:
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> Ron Rosenfeld wrote:

> > Hey, my CAF number also ends in an R.
> > > And here I thought it had something to do with either my

> > first or last name. I never thought it was because I was
> > born and spent my first three years south of the Mason-Dixon
> > line (Virginia)!


> Well in that case I should think the last character on your
> CAF should be an "F", as in FFV.


No, only I was born there. A long way from being FFV.

My dad was in the Army during WWII and stationed at Norfolk.
But his generation came from Brooklyn, NY.

Wait, could it be because my paternal grandparents came from
what was then *R*ussia? (and is now Poland).

--ron

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It seems the "R" may stand for "Reality check needed."

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Old 01-28-2007, 08:46 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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> > Ah! Come on, Harlan, It stands for "R"oyal southern
> > Gentleman or Lady. Mine has an R on the end, as well.
> > And I consider me a Royal Southern Lady.


> But I live in New York and have an R on the end of mine.
> But it's upstate NY, where we do have cows and ducks and
> stuff like that, so maybe I'm an honorary southerner.


Not until you send me $19.95 for a certificate, Don.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-28-2007, 08:46 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Ron Rosenfeld wrote:

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> Hey, my CAF number also ends in an R.
> And here I thought it had something to do with either my
> first or last name. I never thought it was because I was
> born and spent my first three years south of the Mason-Dixon
> line (Virginia)!


Well in that case I should think the last character on your
CAF should be an "F", as in FFV.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-27-2007, 04:11 AM
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> "Harlan Lunsford" wrote.....
> Now I dare you to tell me for sure what my "R" after the
> numbers stand for.


All the CAF numbers I have seen, have it, why it's there,
I'm not sure... Have to dig out the ADP books & see what it
says.

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Old 01-27-2007, 04:11 AM
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> Ah! Come on, Harlan, It stands for "R"oyal southern
> Gentleman or Lady. Mine has an R on the end, as well. And
> I consider me a Royal Southern Lady.


But I live in New York and have an R on the end of mine.
But it's upstate NY, where we do have cows and ducks and
stuff like that, so maybe I'm an honorary southerner.

--
Don EA in Upstate NY

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Old 01-27-2007, 04:11 AM
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> > > > I have seen a case where the CAF number was one digit off
> > > > due to legibility issues, subsequent letters generated went
> > > > to an attorney who had no concern in the case. when it
> > > > should have been going to another.


> > > CAF numbers don't have check digits?
> > > <Computer Scientist tears hair out> >

> > There really is no excuse for not having a check digit to at
> > least detect single digit transcription errors in those
> > numbers.I remember when CAF numbers made their debut. Mine came
> > with numbers AND an "R" on the end of it. Maybe the R was
> > a check character. Probably not. But never could find out
> > what the R stood for. Probably "REAL nice fellow."
> > "R"edneck? Nahhh!


> > Moderator:
> > The Noo Yawk Times has a Q&A section. If you submit
> > the question to them, they will probably research it
> > for you. <rotflmao

> Ah! Come on, Harlan, It stands for "R"oyal southern
> Gentleman or Lady. Mine has an R on the end, as well.
> And I consider me a Royal Southern Lady.


Hey, my CAF number also ends in an R.

And here I thought it had something to do with either my
first or last name. I never thought it was because I was
born and spent my first three years south of the Mason-Dixon
line (Virginia)!

Ron Rosenfeld
--ron

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:20 AM
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> > > I have seen a case where the CAF number was one digit off
> > > due to legibility issues, subsequent letters generated went
> > > to an attorney who had no concern in the case. when it
> > > should have been going to another.


> > CAF numbers don't have check digits?
> > <Computer Scientist tears hair out
> > There really is no excuse for not having a check digit to at
> > least detect single digit transcription errors in those
> > numbers.I remember when CAF numbers made their debut. Mine came

> with numbers AND an "R" on the end of it. Maybe the R was
> a check character. Probably not. But never could find out
> what the R stood for. Probably "REAL nice fellow."
> "R"edneck? Nahhh!
> ChEAr$,
> Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
> Moderator:
> The Noo Yawk Times has a Q&A section. If you submit
> the question to them, they will probably research it
> for you. <rotflmao

Ah! Come on, Harlan, It stands for "R"oyal southern
Gentleman or Lady. Mine has an R on the end, as well. And
I consider me a Royal Southern Lady.

Missy Doyle

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:20 AM
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"Perplexed" wrote

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> The "Other Issues" IRS person in the Seattle taxpayer
> service center was excellent. 'Tho probably at the low end
> of the professional totem pole he handled this problem with
> wisdom and professionalism of a savvy attorney. Kudos to a
> public servant in an agency that is not known for treating
> either their staff or their 'customers' kindly.


On behalf the Seattle TAC rep, myself and many other
dedicated employees,

THANK YOU, for understanding!

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:20 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Taxmanhog wrote:

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> I'm not a 100% sure about the 2848, it seems feasible that
> the SURNAME of the REP could be KEYED to his CAF number for
> subsequent input validations.
> The processing of the tax returns require one of the
> following to validate the SSN:
> A two letter check digit found on the pre-printer stick on
> label that comes with the instruction/forms package.
> or
> A four letter "NAME CONTROL" which is composed of the first
> four letters of the first taxpayer surname matched to the
> first taxpayer SSN.


Now I dare you to tell me for sure what my "R" after the
numbers stand for.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:20 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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> > > I have seen a case where the CAF number was one digit off
> > > due to legibility issues, subsequent letters generated went
> > > to an attorney who had no concern in the case. when it
> > > should have been going to another.


> > CAF numbers don't have check digits?
> > <Computer Scientist tears hair out > > > There really is no excuse for not having a check digit to at
> > least detect single digit transcription errors in those
> > numbers.


> I remember when CAF numbers made their debut. Mine came
> with numbers AND an "R" on the end of it. Maybe the R was
> a check character. Probably not. But never could find out
> what the R stood for. Probably "REAL nice fellow."
> "R"edneck? Nahhh!


> Moderator:
> The Noo Yawk Times has a Q&A section. If you submit
> the question to them, they will probably research it
> for you. <rotflmao

While I wasn't exactly rolling on the floor, my wife did
come in to see if I were okay. Thanks Dick, I needed that
after a rather long and "taxing" day.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-26-2007, 09:01 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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> > What we've learned here in this thread is yet one more good
> > reason to sign up for and use eServices. I can sit down at
> > my computer and input a form 2848 in less than 7 minutes,
> > then wait maybe another 2 minutes for it to register with
> > CAF in Memphis. Best thing since canned dog food!


> I expected you to plug the program in this thread!
> I agree, more of you folks need to sign up for it!!!!


And since I was one of about 15 or so people in on the
ground floor testing the system maybe 5 or 6 years ago, I do
qualify. Remember PMS?

No wait, it was PSMS I think.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-25-2007, 06:43 AM
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- quote -

> > I have seen a case where the CAF number was one digit off
> > due to legibility issues, subsequent letters generated went
> > to an attorney who had no concern in the case. when it
> > should have been going to another.


> CAF numbers don't have check digits?
> <Computer Scientist tears hair out > There really is no excuse for not having a check digit to at
> least detect single digit transcription errors in those
> numbers.


I'm not a 100% sure about the 2848, it seems feasible that
the SURNAME of the REP could be KEYED to his CAF number for
subsequent input validations.

The processing of the tax returns require one of the
following to validate the SSN:

A two letter check digit found on the pre-printer stick on
label that comes with the instruction/forms package.
or
A four letter "NAME CONTROL" which is composed of the first
four letters of the first taxpayer surname matched to the
first taxpayer SSN.

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Old 01-25-2007, 06:43 AM
Taxmanhog
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> What we've learned here in this thread is yet one more good
> reason to sign up for and use eServices. I can sit down at
> my computer and input a form 2848 in less than 7 minutes,
> then wait maybe another 2 minutes for it to register with
> CAF in Memphis. Best thing since canned dog food!


I expected you to plug the program in this thread!
I agree, more of you folks need to sign up for it!!!!

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Old 01-25-2007, 06:24 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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> > I have seen a case where the CAF number was one digit off
> > due to legibility issues, subsequent letters generated went
> > to an attorney who had no concern in the case. when it
> > should have been going to another.


> CAF numbers don't have check digits?
> <Computer Scientist tears hair out > There really is no excuse for not having a check digit to at
> least detect single digit transcription errors in those
> numbers.


I remember when CAF numbers made their debut. Mine came
with numbers AND an "R" on the end of it. Maybe the R was
a check character. Probably not. But never could find out
what the R stood for. Probably "REAL nice fellow."
"R"edneck? Nahhh!

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

Moderator:
The Noo Yawk Times has a Q&A section. If you submit
the question to them, they will probably research it
for you. <rotflmao
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Old 01-25-2007, 06:24 AM
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You nailed it Taxmanhog. I learned that my CAS number was
one digit off of the Taxpayer's correct Representative's CAS
number - it was a keying error. Two Representative notices
were sent, one to me and one to the correct Rep.

I have no clue as to what a CAS number is, but I may have
received one when I file on behalf of my Mom who is in a
nursing home and not able to manage her financial affairs.

The IRS, and the Taxpayer, should count their blessings that
I am an honest person who understands that mistakes happen
[retired USDOL Compliance Officer]. Too bad that they
aren't staffed sufficiently to catch the error even when a
member of the public is trying to get their attention.

The "Other Issues" IRS person in the Seattle taxpayer
service center was excellent. 'Tho probably at the low end
of the professional totem pole he handled this problem with
wisdom and professionalism of a savvy attorney. Kudos to a
public servant in an agency that is not known for treating
either their staff or their 'customers' kindly.

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Old 01-24-2007, 06:15 AM
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Taxmanhog wrote:

(snipped...)

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> This situation is a reminder to all Tax rep's, when the
> service is still contacting your client w/o sending you CC's
> of the letters, something is wrong! Especially if more than
> 60 days have passed since you have submitted a correctly
> prepared 2848.
> I stress, make sure your CAF number is on the form if you
> have been assigned one, that your address & phone numbers
> are accurate, and that all content is legible, poor grade
> prints/copies faxed in the Memphis or Ogden are hard to
> process.
> I have seen a case where the CAF number was one digit off
> due to legibility issues, subsequent letters generated went
> to an attorney who had no concern in the case. when it
> should have been going to another.


What we've learned here in this thread is yet one more good
reason to sign up for and use eServices. I can sit down at
my computer and input a form 2848 in less than 7 minutes,
then wait maybe another 2 minutes for it to register with
CAF in Memphis. Best thing since canned dog food!

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 01-24-2007, 06:15 AM
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On Jan 22, 11:23 pm, "Taxmanhog" <taxman...[at]comcast.net> wrote:

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> I have seen a case where the CAF number was one digit off
> due to legibility issues, subsequent letters generated went
> to an attorney who had no concern in the case. when it
> should have been going to another.


CAF numbers don't have check digits?
<Computer Scientist tears hair out
There really is no excuse for not having a check digit to at
least detect single digit transcription errors in those
numbers.

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Old 01-23-2007, 06:23 AM
Taxmanhog
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> "Jonathan Kamens" wrote......
> > "Perplexed" writes...
> > The problem is fixed!


> But what *was* it? What could possibly have caused those
> letters to be sent to you?


Fumble fingered key entry errors when the 2848 was
processed.

- quote -

> And why didn't they get the point when you repeatedly told
> them that they were writing to the wrong address?


They could not disclose those details to a third party :-}
but I would guess the OP's reaction letter is sitting in a
pile of work to be screened at a Service Center or Area
office.

This situation is a reminder to all Tax rep's, when the
service is still contacting your client w/o sending you CC's
of the letters, something is wrong! Especially if more than
60 days have passed since you have submitted a correctly
prepared 2848.

I stress, make sure your CAF number is on the form if you
have been assigned one, that your address & phone numbers
are accurate, and that all content is legible, poor grade
prints/copies faxed in the Memphis or Ogden are hard to
process.

I have seen a case where the CAF number was one digit off
due to legibility issues, subsequent letters generated went
to an attorney who had no concern in the case. when it
should have been going to another.

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