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Old 12-18-2006, 02:05 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Harlan Lunsford wrote:
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> Mark X. Rigotti, CPA wrote:
> > "Rhickey" <rhickey[at]triad.rr.com> wrote:


> > > I have been signing client copies the 1040 for e-filing
> > > clients. A fellow practitioner has told me that he only
> > > signs the 8879. Is it necessary to sign the 1040?


> > My reading of Circular E is that there is no requirement to
> > provide the client with a SIGNED copy - just a copy.


> (snipped> ....)
> Hmmm, what's Circular E got to do with it? Did I miss
> something?
> ChEAr$,
> Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA
> Moderator:
> You miss a lot when you don't read the New Yawk Times.


HL:
I'd rather be reading Circular E cover to cover.

C$,
H

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Old 12-17-2006, 10:40 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Mark X. Rigotti, CPA wrote:
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> "Rhickey" <rhickey[at]triad.rr.com> wrote:

> > I have been signing client copies the 1040 for e-filing
> > clients. A fellow practitioner has told me that he only
> > signs the 8879. Is it necessary to sign the 1040?


> My reading of Circular E is that there is no requirement to
> provide the client with a SIGNED copy - just a copy.


(snipped> ....)

Hmmm, what's Circular E got to do with it? Did I miss
something?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

Moderator:
You miss a lot when you don't read the New Yawk Times.

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Old 12-17-2006, 10:40 PM
Rhickey
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Default Re: signed copies of returns provided to clients

"Mark X. Rigotti, CPA" <rigotti[at]wideopenwest.com> wrote:
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> "Rhickey" <rhickey[at]triad.rr.com> wrote:

> > I have been signing client copies the 1040 for e-filing
> > clients. A fellow practitioner has told me that he only
> > signs the 8879. Is it necessary to sign the 1040?


> My reading of Circular E is that there is no requirement to
> provide the client with a SIGNED copy - just a copy.
> Accordingly, for the last 5-7 years I've been providing my
> clients with a copy of a PDF on a CD or via e-mail sometimes
> even. I'm down to less than 5% that receive a "traditional"
> paper copy.
> Regards,
> Mark Rigotti, CPA


The rules appear to be

Electronically filed - 8879 suffices

Paper copy filed - sign the 1040

Is this right?

Sec 6695 (b)

(b) Failure to sign return

Any person who is an income tax return preparer with respect
to any return or claim for refund, who is required by
regulations prescribed by the Secretary to sign such return
or claim, and who fails to comply with such regulations with
respect to such return or claim shall pay a penalty of $50
for such failure, unless it is shown that such failure is
due to reasonable cause and not due to willful neglect. The
maximum penalty imposed under this subsection on any person
with respect to documents filed during any calendar year
shall not exceed $25,000.

Ron Hickey, CPA, EA, MTA

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Old 12-17-2006, 12:58 AM
Mark X. Rigotti, CPA
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"Rhickey" <rhickey[at]triad.rr.com> wrote:

- quote -

> I have been signing client copies the 1040 for e-filing
> clients. A fellow practitioner has told me that he only
> signs the 8879. Is it necessary to sign the 1040?


My reading of Circular E is that there is no requirement to
provide the client with a SIGNED copy - just a copy.

Accordingly, for the last 5-7 years I've been providing my
clients with a copy of a PDF on a CD or via e-mail sometimes
even. I'm down to less than 5% that receive a "traditional"
paper copy.

Regards,

Mark Rigotti, CPA

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Old 12-15-2006, 02:24 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Shagnasty wrote:
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> "Rhickey" <rhickey[at]triad.rr.com> wrote:

> > I have been signing client copies the 1040 for e-filing
> > clients. A fellow practitioner has told me that he only
> > signs the 8879. Is it necessary to sign the 1040?


> The 'signature' on the 1040 can be printed. I've set up a
> fancy script signatue that looks like cursive handwriting
> which automatically prints on all 1040s. I'll do the same
> for corp. and partnership forms also. I believe you need to
> manually sign the 8879.


Hmmm..!!! I hadn't thought about it, BUT: If a 1040 may be
facsimilie signed, why not a n 8879?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 12-15-2006, 02:18 PM
Harlan Lunsford
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Shagnasty wrote:
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> "Rhickey" <rhickey[at]triad.rr.com> wrote:

> > I have been signing client copies the 1040 for e-filing
> > clients. A fellow practitioner has told me that he only
> > signs the 8879. Is it necessary to sign the 1040?


> The 'signature' on the 1040 can be printed. I've set up a
> fancy script signatue that looks like cursive handwriting
> which automatically prints on all 1040s. I'll do the same
> for corp. and partnership forms also. I believe you need to
> manually sign the 8879.


Hmmm..!!! I hadn't thought about it, BUT: If a 1040 may be
facsimilie signed, why not a n 8879?

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 12-14-2006, 02:57 AM
Shagnasty
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"Rhickey" <rhickey[at]triad.rr.com> wrote:

- quote -

> I have been signing client copies the 1040 for e-filing
> clients. A fellow practitioner has told me that he only
> signs the 8879. Is it necessary to sign the 1040?


The 'signature' on the 1040 can be printed. I've set up a
fancy script signatue that looks like cursive handwriting
which automatically prints on all 1040s. I'll do the same
for corp. and partnership forms also. I believe you need to
manually sign the 8879.

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Old 12-14-2006, 02:57 AM
Paul Thomas, CPA
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"Rhickey" <rhickey[at]triad.rr.com> wrote

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> I have been signing client copies the 1040 for e-filing
> clients. A fellow practitioner has told me that he only
> signs the 8879. Is it necessary to sign the 1040?


It's not necessary to sign the client's copy, but it
couldn't hurt to do so.

--
Paul Thomas, CPA
paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net

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Old 12-14-2006, 02:57 AM
Harlan Lunsford
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Rhickey wrote:

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> I have been signing client copies the 1040 for e-filing
> clients. A fellow practitioner has told me that he only
> signs the 8879. Is it necessary to sign the 1040?


Nope. Just the 8879 which you must retain for three years.

ChEAr$,
Harlan Lunsford, EA n LA

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Old 12-12-2006, 06:35 AM
Rhickey
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Default signed copies of returns provided to clients

I have been signing client copies the 1040 for e-filing
clients. A fellow practitioner has told me that he only
signs the 8879. Is it necessary to sign the 1040?

<< ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== >
 

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