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Got it thanks alot!> > I have a problem maybe you'll be able to help me.I have no > > idea of how the calculations work for CPI. I have a formula > > that takes the ground rental cost lets say $50000 then takes > > the cpi from 2001 which is 185 and divides $50000 by 185 > > which gives you 270.27 then multiples that by the current > > CPI which is 216 and total is $58378.32 this becomes total > > ground rentals notice the difference between $50000 and > > $58378.32 is $8378.32. My major problem is where does 2001 > > CPI come into the picture and why, do you know. I don not > > understand these calculations much is there anyone who can > > help me understand it so that I will be able to do these > > calculations myself! > > > $50000 / 185 * 216 = $8378.32 + $50000 = $58378.32 > Another way to look at this is to say that the CPI increased > 31 points between 2001 and the current CPI, or approximately > 15%. So, to make the ground rent neutral, in current > purchaseing value, the rent must increase by the same > percentage. Do the math, it comes out the same. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Zigball wrote: - quote - > I have a problem maybe you'll be able to help me.I have no
This link explains the CPI for rentals and includes a> idea of how the calculations work for CPI. I have a formula > that takes the ground rental cost lets say $50000 then takes > the cpi from 2001 which is 185 and divides $50000 by 185 > which gives you 270.27 then multiples that by the current > CPI which is 216 and total is $58378.32 this becomes total > ground rentals notice the difference between $50000 and > $58378.32 is $8378.32. My major problem is where does 2001 > CPI come into the picture and why, do you know. I don not > understand these calculations much is there anyone who can > help me understand it so that I will be able to do these > calculations myself! > $50000 / 185 * 216 = $8378.32 + $50000 = $58378.32 discussion of use of the year 2001: http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpifact6.htm Here is a FAQ page which should answer any other questions you may have on the CPI: http://www.bls.gov/cpi/cpifaq.htm << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Zigball" <zigball[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I have a problem maybe you'll be able to help me.I have no
What they are doing is figuring out the increase from 2001> idea of how the calculations work for CPI. I have a formula > that takes the ground rental cost lets say $50000 then takes > the cpi from 2001 which is 185 and divides $50000 by 185 > which gives you 270.27 then multiples that by the current > CPI which is 216 and total is $58378.32 this becomes total > ground rentals notice the difference between $50000 and > $58378.32 is $8378.32. My major problem is where does 2001 > CPI come into the picture and why, do you know. I don not > understand these calculations much is there anyone who can > help me understand it so that I will be able to do these > calculations myself! to now. They are saying that $58,378 in current dollars is the same as $50,000 in 2001 dollars. The dollars have depreciated but you are required to pay the same value rather than the same amount of dollars. First they take the $50,000 and essentially back out the 2001 CPI by dividing by it. Then they add back the current CPI by multiplying that figure. Their calculation, as you have described it, is correct. Stu << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Zigball wrote: - quote - > I have a problem maybe you'll be able to help me.I have no
Your formula is more correctly shown as:> idea of how the calculations work for CPI. I have a formula > that takes the ground rental cost lets say $50000 then takes > the cpi from 2001 which is 185 and divides $50000 by 185 > which gives you 270.27 then multiples that by the current > CPI which is 216 and total is $58378.32 this becomes total > ground rentals notice the difference between $50000 and > $58378.32 is $8378.32. My major problem is where does 2001 > CPI come into the picture and why, do you know. I don not > understand these calculations much is there anyone who can > help me understand it so that I will be able to do these > calculations myself! > $50000 / 185 * 216 = $8378.32 + $50000 = $58378.32 ($50,000 / 185) * 216 = $8,378.32 The 2001 CPI was probably a "given" of your homework problem. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Zigball" <zigball[at]gmail.com> wrote: - quote - > I have a problem maybe you'll be able to help me.I have no
Another way to look at this is to say that the CPI increased> idea of how the calculations work for CPI. I have a formula > that takes the ground rental cost lets say $50000 then takes > the cpi from 2001 which is 185 and divides $50000 by 185 > which gives you 270.27 then multiples that by the current > CPI which is 216 and total is $58378.32 this becomes total > ground rentals notice the difference between $50000 and > $58378.32 is $8378.32. My major problem is where does 2001 > CPI come into the picture and why, do you know. I don not > understand these calculations much is there anyone who can > help me understand it so that I will be able to do these > calculations myself! > $50000 / 185 * 216 = $8378.32 + $50000 = $58378.32 31 points between 2001 and the current CPI, or approximately 15%. So, to make the ground rent neutral, in current purchaseing value, the rent must increase by the same percentage. Do the math, it comes out the same. Lanny K. Williams, CPA Nawarat, Williams & Co., Ltd. Income Tax Services for Expatriate Americans << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| zigball[at]gmail.com (Zigball) posted: - quote - > I have a problem maybe you'll be able to help
It appears your ground rental cost is indexed to the CPI of> me.I have no idea of how the calculations > work for CPI. I have a formula that takes the > ground rental cost lets say $50000 then takes > the cpi from 2001 which is 185 and divides > $50000 by 185 which gives you 270.27 then > multiples that by the current CPI which is 216 > and total is $58378.32 this becomes total > ground rentals notice the difference between > $50000 and $58378.32 is $8378.32. My major > problem is where does 2001 CPI come into > the picture and why, do you know. I don not > understand these calculations much is there > anyone who can help me understand it so that > I will be able to do these calculations myself! > $50000 / 185 * 216 = $8378.32 + $50000 = > $58378.32 2001 (presumably the year the lease started). That would mean the calculation in question would be stated as follows: $50,000 = base cost as of 2001, when CPI=185 Current CPI is 216, which is 31 higher than 185 31 divided by base of 185 = 16.75675 % 16.75675 X $50,000 = $8,378.38 [Note: slight difference in pennies probably from rounding.] Ergo, the CPI increase was about 16.76%, and that was the amount of increase for your ground rental. So, for example, if the next year's CPI report for the relevant period shows 230, you could calculate your ground rental as follows: 230 - 185 = 45 45/185 = 24.32% 2432 X $50,000 = $12,162 $50,000 + $12,162 = $62,162 Bill << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| I have a problem maybe you'll be able to help me.I have no idea of how the calculations work for CPI. I have a formula that takes the ground rental cost lets say $50000 then takes the cpi from 2001 which is 185 and divides $50000 by 185 which gives you 270.27 then multiples that by the current CPI which is 216 and total is $58378.32 this becomes total ground rentals notice the difference between $50000 and $58378.32 is $8378.32. My major problem is where does 2001 CPI come into the picture and why, do you know. I don not understand these calculations much is there anyone who can help me understand it so that I will be able to do these calculations myself! $50000 / 185 * 216 = $8378.32 + $50000 = $58378.32 << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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