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| joetaxpayer wrote: - quote - > Jeff Wisnia wrote:
Thanks to all who answered. I'll probably just leave that> > Will the IRS accept as a valid IRA "contribution" my > > purchasing a State of Israel bond in my name from their > > agent (Bank of America) and then transfering that bond to my > > IRA, held by a brokerage firm? > No. When I first started IRAing a long time ago, I asked if > I could pay the stock commission separately to fund the full > $2000 into the IRA. I was told 'no'. So I asked if I could > buy the stock outside the IRA and 'deposit' stock instead of > cash. A louder 'no'. > As I understand it, you may take a distribution as you wish. > Stock removed from the IRA is distributed. Or you can > convert shares from the IRA to the Roth IRA. But the deposit > to the IRA must be cash. cash in the IRA until my broker (Whom I've liked and trusted for some 30 years now) comes up with something to buy with it. I'll just purchase that Israel Bond with cash and stick it in our safety deposit box. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.98*10^14 fathoms per fortnight. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Jeff Wisnia wrote: - quote - > Will the IRS accept as a valid IRA "contribution" my
No. When I first started IRAing a long time ago, I asked if> purchasing a State of Israel bond in my name from their > agent (Bank of America) and then transfering that bond to my > IRA, held by a brokerage firm? I could pay the stock commission separately to fund the full $2000 into the IRA. I was told 'no'. So I asked if I could buy the stock outside the IRA and 'deposit' stock instead of cash. A louder 'no'. As I understand it, you may take a distribution as you wish. Stock removed from the IRA is distributed. Or you can convert shares from the IRA to the Roth IRA. But the deposit to the IRA must be cash. JOE << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Jeff Wisnia wrote: - quote - > Will the IRS accept as a valid IRA "contribution" my
Your annual contribution to an IRA must be in cash.> purchasing a State of Israel bond in my name from their > agent (Bank of America) and then transfering that bond to my > IRA, held by a brokerage firm? > I'm asking because I had such a bond in my IRA brokerage > account and it matured last month. I asked my broker to use > the proceeds to purchase another $4,500 State of Israel Bond > for that account. He came back sheepishly apologetic and > told me that he could, but his firm insisted on charging me > a $150 fee for handling the purchase. That struck us both as > a bit chintzy. > The brokerage firm makes no charge for transfers into an IRA > account. I was planning on making a cash contribution of > $4500 to the IRA this year, and that got me thinking about > accomplishing my mission and avoiding that $150 fee by > purchasing the bond myself (No fee required for that.) and > transfering it into my IRA account as my contribution for > this year contribution. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Jeff Wisnia <jwisnia[at]conversent.net> wrote: - quote - > Will the IRS accept as a valid IRA "contribution" my
I thought the State of Israel Bond people will open an IRA> purchasing a State of Israel bond in my name from their > agent (Bank of America) and then transfering that bond to my > IRA, held by a brokerage firm? > I'm asking because I had such a bond in my IRA brokerage > account and it matured last month. I asked my broker to use > the proceeds to purchase another $4,500 State of Israel Bond > for that account. He came back sheepishly apologetic and > told me that he could, but his firm insisted on charging me > a $150 fee for handling the purchase. That struck us both as > a bit chintzy. > The brokerage firm makes no charge for transfers into an IRA > account. I was planning on making a cash contribution of > $4500 to the IRA this year, and that got me thinking about > accomplishing my mission and avoiding that $150 fee by > purchasing the bond myself (No fee required for that.) and > transfering it into my IRA account as my contribution for > this year contribution. account for you and allow you to purchase a bond to be held in that IRA. If this is correct, then take a cash distribution of your just-matured bond, and you have 60 days to Roll it over to an IRA administered by the SofI IRA custodian. __ Art Kamlet ArtKamlet [at] AOL.com Columbus OH K2PZH << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Jeff Wisnia" <jwisnia[at]conversent.net> wrote - quote - > Will the IRS accept as a valid IRA "contribution" my
No. IRA contributions are to be made in cash or check. You> purchasing a State of Israel bond in my name from their > agent (Bank of America) and then transfering that bond to my > IRA, held by a brokerage firm? can not contribute stock, bonds or any other asset to an IRA. -- Paul Thomas, CPA paulthomascpapc[at]bellsouth.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Jeff Wisnia" <jwisnia[at]conversent.net> wrote: - quote - > Will the IRS accept as a valid IRA "contribution" my
[remainder snipped]> purchasing a State of Israel bond in my name from their > agent (Bank of America) and then transfering that bond to my > IRA, held by a brokerage firm? No. All contributions must be cash. The only time you can transfer a non-cash asset into an IRA is when it comes from another retirement account. Ira Smilovitz << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| "Jeff Wisnia" <jwisnia[at]conversent.net> wrote: - quote - > Will the IRS accept as a valid IRA "contribution" my
No. All IRA contributions must be cash. See IRS> purchasing a State of Israel bond in my name from their > agent (Bank of America) and then transfering that bond to my > IRA, held by a brokerage firm? Publication 590. - quote - > I'm asking because I had such a bond in my IRA brokerage
The best I can suggest is shopping for a different IRA> account and it matured last month. I asked my broker to use > the proceeds to purchase another $4,500 State of Israel Bond > for that account. He came back sheepishly apologetic and > told me that he could, but his firm insisted on charging me > a $150 fee for handling the purchase. That struck us both as > a bit chintzy. custodian with fees more to your liking. There is often a disadvantage to holding foreign-based investments in an IRA. If you are paying any Israeli tax on the income from this bond you do not get to take the US foreign tax credit as you would if you held it in a regular taxable investment account. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Will the IRS accept as a valid IRA "contribution" my purchasing a State of Israel bond in my name from their agent (Bank of America) and then transfering that bond to my IRA, held by a brokerage firm? I'm asking because I had such a bond in my IRA brokerage account and it matured last month. I asked my broker to use the proceeds to purchase another $4,500 State of Israel Bond for that account. He came back sheepishly apologetic and told me that he could, but his firm insisted on charging me a $150 fee for handling the purchase. That struck us both as a bit chintzy. The brokerage firm makes no charge for transfers into an IRA account. I was planning on making a cash contribution of $4500 to the IRA this year, and that got me thinking about accomplishing my mission and avoiding that $150 fee by purchasing the bond myself (No fee required for that.) and transfering it into my IRA account as my contribution for this year contribution. Thanks guys, Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10^12 furlongs per fortnight. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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