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| Rich Carreiro wrote: - quote - > cpabakem01[at]yahoo.com writes: http://401kcenter.com/solo-401k.htm> > There are two natural markets for the single-participant > > 401(k). The first includes independent contractors, sole > > proprietors, and owner-only C or S corporations. The second > > market is those who have dual incomes. > True -- but I was wondering about what makes you eligible > to open snd maintain a solo 401k as a sole proprietor. > Is filing a Sched C for a legit business good enough? > Does the business have to stay in operation to be able > to maintain the plan, etc.? http://www.julyservices.com/solo401keligible.aspx http://invest-faq.com/articles/ret-plan-401k.solo.html Milt Baker CPA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <cpabakem01[at]yahoo.com> wrote: - quote - > If, during the year an employee is already contributing the
Well, yes and no. If an employee is contributing the> maximum to a 401(k) or 403(b) plan at work, then the > benefits of establishing a single-participant 401(k) plan > would disappear. > Milt Baker CPA maximum ($15K or $20K depending on age) to an employer-sponsored plan, but the employer is not contributing $29K (to reach the personal limit of $44K/$49K), then there is still a reason for the self-employed to open an employer plan. That is, to add more from the employER side. But if all one is going to do is add employer contributions and not employee contributions, a SEP-IRA will work as well, and has less paperwork. Since I have maxed out my 401(k) contribution with my (former) employer, that's what I will do this year. Next year, I open the Roth 401(k). Mark Freeland BnetOnewX[at]sbcglobal.net << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| cpabakem01[at]yahoo.com writes: - quote - > There are two natural markets for the single-participant
True -- but I was wondering about what makes you eligible> 401(k). The first includes independent contractors, sole > proprietors, and owner-only C or S corporations. The second > market is those who have dual incomes. to open snd maintain a solo 401k as a sole proprietor. Is filing a Sched C for a legit business good enough? Does the business have to stay in operation to be able to maintain the plan, etc.? -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Rich Carreiro wrote: - quote - > What exactly are the eligibility requirements for a sole
I am not aware of any requirements to open a solo 401k that> proprietor to open and maintain a solo 401(k) plan? In > reading the materials that brokers, etc. have about these > plans, they don't actually give any eligibility criteria. > [...] involve subsequent years (the examples you gave). There is a filing requirement for a Form 5500(-EZ) if plan assets exceed a certain amount or in the year of final distribution of all plan assets. If the taxpayer hires employees, things change. -Mark Bole << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Rich Carreiro wrote: - quote - > What exactly are the eligibility requirements for a sole
There are two natural markets for the single-participant> proprietor to open and maintain a solo 401(k) plan? In > reading the materials that brokers, etc. have about these > plans, they don't actually give any eligibility criteria. > For example, let's say you have some self-employment income > this year (moonlighting, or did some consulting between > regular jobs) but know/figure that you won't have any SE > income again for the forseeable future. Are you allowed to > open a solo 401(k)? Are you allowed to maintain it even > though there aren't going to be any future contributions? > Similarly, what if you intend your business to be ongoing, > and you have a some profit this year, but losses the next > couple of years and then you give up on the business. > Presumably you can open it (you had profits this year), but > can you maintain it? Even after you stopped the business? > And are there any minimum income requirements? If someone > has a steady, legitimate $1000/yr of SE income (cuts lawns, > babysits, etc), can they open and maintain a solo 401(k)? 401(k). The first includes independent contractors, sole proprietors, and owner-only C or S corporations. The second market is those who have dual incomes. They are W-2 wage earners as employees of a company that offers a 401(k) plan who also have consulting income from corporate directorships or freelance work that requires them to file a Schedule C as a sole proprietor. These are the kinds of taxpayers who should be interested in the single-participant 401(k) arrangement because these dual earners traditionally are looking for a way to shelter additional retirement money. If, during the year an employee is already contributing the maximum to a 401(k) or 403(b) plan at work, then the benefits of establishing a single-participant 401(k) plan would disappear. Milt Baker CPA << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| What exactly are the eligibility requirements for a sole proprietor to open and maintain a solo 401(k) plan? In reading the materials that brokers, etc. have about these plans, they don't actually give any eligibility criteria. For example, let's say you have some self-employment income this year (moonlighting, or did some consulting between regular jobs) but know/figure that you won't have any SE income again for the forseeable future. Are you allowed to open a solo 401(k)? Are you allowed to maintain it even though there aren't going to be any future contributions? Similarly, what if you intend your business to be ongoing, and you have a some profit this year, but losses the next couple of years and then you give up on the business. Presumably you can open it (you had profits this year), but can you maintain it? Even after you stopped the business? And are there any minimum income requirements? If someone has a steady, legitimate $1000/yr of SE income (cuts lawns, babysits, etc), can they open and maintain a solo 401(k)? -- Rich Carreiro rlcarr[at]animato.arlington.ma.us << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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