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| goggleacco...[at]dodgeit.com wrote: - quote - > I was "forced" to transfer one of the mutual fund shares
Thank you every one and I appreciate you taking time to> that I had (FUND A) to another mutual fund (FUND B) on Oct > 31st operated by same group. I have received shares of > FUND B at its price as on Oct 31st. The description of the > transfer states "Fund Merge Redeem Non-Taxable" > I had purchased shares of FUND A in one lump five years back > (at the pinnacle of dot-com bubble) and consistently lost > the value since then. Thus, the price at which it was > transferred to FUND B is substantially less than the > original purchase price. The net capital loss is around > $3,000. > My question is: > I believe the cost basis for FUND B shares will be the price > of transfer as on Oct 31st. That being the case, what is > the fate of my capital loss of $3,000 on FUND A? I don't > have any capital gains in this year. Is there any way I > will be able to deduct the capital loss (full or partial > over next couple of years) in Federal Tax Return from Earned > Income? Are there any IRS Guides that would address these > circumstances, as these could be a routine matter? provide the information Kyle << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <goggleaccount[at]dodgeit.com> wrote: - quote - > I was "forced" to transfer one of the mutual fund shares
Your belief is wrong. Your cost basis and holding period> that I had (FUND A) to another mutual fund (FUND B) on Oct > 31st operated by same group. I have received shares of > FUND B at its price as on Oct 31st. The description of the > transfer states "Fund Merge Redeem Non-Taxable" > I had purchased shares of FUND A in one lump five years back > (at the pinnacle of dot-com bubble) and consistently lost > the value since then. Thus, the price at which it was > transferred to FUND B is substantially less than the > original purchase price. The net capital loss is around > $3,000. > My question is: > I believe the cost basis for FUND B shares will be the price > of transfer as on Oct 31st. That being the case, what is > the fate of my capital loss of $3,000 on FUND A? I don't > have any capital gains in this year. Is there any way I > will be able to deduct the capital loss (full or partial > over next couple of years) in Federal Tax Return from Earned > Income? Are there any IRS Guides that would address these > circumstances, as these could be a routine matter? will be the same as they were for FUND A. You'll just spread that cost basis over a different number of shares of FUND B. You won't have any claimable capital loss (or gain) until you sell the shares. Ira Smilovitz << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| goggleaccount[at]dodgeit.com wrote: - quote - > I was "forced" to transfer one of the mutual fund shares
If you have no other capital gains, you can take up to> that I had (FUND A) to another mutual fund (FUND B) on Oct > 31st operated by same group. I have received shares of > FUND B at its price as on Oct 31st. The description of the > transfer states "Fund Merge Redeem Non-Taxable" > I had purchased shares of FUND A in one lump five years back > (at the pinnacle of dot-com bubble) and consistently lost > the value since then. Thus, the price at which it was > transferred to FUND B is substantially less than the > original purchase price. The net capital loss is around > $3,000. > My question is: > I believe the cost basis for FUND B shares will be the price > of transfer as on Oct 31st. That being the case, what is > the fate of my capital loss of $3,000 on FUND A? I don't > have any capital gains in this year. Is there any way I > will be able to deduct the capital loss (full or partial > over next couple of years) in Federal Tax Return from Earned > Income? Are there any IRS Guides that would address these > circumstances, as these could be a routine matter? $3,000 of capital losses on Line 14 (or thereaboouts) which deducts it directly from your AGi and taxable income. You must go through the Long Term Capital Gains and Qualified Dividends Worksheet of Schedule D. Moderator: I do not believe there was a sale here, just a merger of funds. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| <goggleaccount[at]dodgeit.com> wrote: - quote - > I was "forced" to transfer one of the mutual fund shares
It sounds like the equivalent of a tax-free merger of> that I had (FUND A) to another mutual fund (FUND B) on Oct > 31st operated by same group. I have received shares of > FUND B at its price as on Oct 31st. The description of the > transfer states "Fund Merge Redeem Non-Taxable" companies. Your basis and holding period are unchanged. See IRS Publication 550. -- Phil Marti Clarksburg, MD << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| goggleaccount[at]dodgeit.com wrote: - quote - > I was "forced" to transfer one of the mutual fund shares
Actually, your cost basis remains the same as what you> that I had (FUND A) to another mutual fund (FUND B) on Oct > 31st operated by same group. I have received shares of > FUND B at its price as on Oct 31st. The description of the > transfer states "Fund Merge Redeem Non-Taxable" > I had purchased shares of FUND A in one lump five years back > (at the pinnacle of dot-com bubble) and consistently lost > the value since then. Thus, the price at which it was > transferred to FUND B is substantially less than the > original purchase price. The net capital loss is around > $3,000. > My question is: > I believe the cost basis for FUND B shares will be the price > of transfer as on Oct 31st. originally paid for the shares. This was not a sale, therefore there is no capital gain or loss. << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| goggleaccount[at]dodgeit.com wrote: - quote - > I was "forced" to transfer one of the mutual fund shares
Since this was a non-taxable transfer, there's no tax effect> that I had (FUND A) to another mutual fund (FUND B) on Oct > 31st operated by same group. I have received shares of > FUND B at its price as on Oct 31st. The description of the > transfer states "Fund Merge Redeem Non-Taxable" > I had purchased shares of FUND A in one lump five years back > (at the pinnacle of dot-com bubble) and consistently lost > the value since then. Thus, the price at which it was > transferred to FUND B is substantially less than the > original purchase price. The net capital loss is around > $3,000. > My question is: > I believe the cost basis for FUND B shares will be the price > of transfer as on Oct 31st. That being the case, what is > the fate of my capital loss of $3,000 on FUND A? I don't > have any capital gains in this year. Is there any way I > will be able to deduct the capital loss (full or partial > over next couple of years) in Federal Tax Return from Earned > Income? Are there any IRS Guides that would address these > circumstances, as these could be a routine matter? at all. The cost basis and purchase date of the old shares simply transfers to the new shares. You don't get to declare any loss at the time of the transfer. -- Barry Margolin, barmar[at]alum.mit.edu Arlington, MA *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group *** << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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| Good morning: I was "forced" to transfer one of the mutual fund shares that I had (FUND A) to another mutual fund (FUND B) on Oct 31st operated by same group. I have received shares of FUND B at its price as on Oct 31st. The description of the transfer states "Fund Merge Redeem Non-Taxable" I had purchased shares of FUND A in one lump five years back (at the pinnacle of dot-com bubble) and consistently lost the value since then. Thus, the price at which it was transferred to FUND B is substantially less than the original purchase price. The net capital loss is around $3,000. My question is: I believe the cost basis for FUND B shares will be the price of transfer as on Oct 31st. That being the case, what is the fate of my capital loss of $3,000 on FUND A? I don't have any capital gains in this year. Is there any way I will be able to deduct the capital loss (full or partial over next couple of years) in Federal Tax Return from Earned Income? Are there any IRS Guides that would address these circumstances, as these could be a routine matter? Thank you in advance for any suggestions. With regards, Kyle << ================================================== ===== > << The foregoing was not intended or written to be used, > << nor can it used, for the purpose of avoiding penalties > << that may be imposed upon the taxpayer. > << > << The Charter and the Guidelines for submitting posts > << to this newsgroup as well as our anti-spamming policy > << are at www.asktax.org. > << Copyright (2006) - All rights reserved. > << ================================================== ===== > |
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